<div><div dir="auto">If that's the case and some accept your line of argument then the question is why have ncsg bank account at all? Both npoc and ncuc have bank accounts. Then you don't have to keep "incidental" charges. I totally do not agree with this plan. NCSG on its own also needs to have access to money. And this division between constituencies doesn't sound like a solution. </div><div dir="auto">I do recommend sharing this document with the members very soon. </div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 4:02 AM Remmy Nweke <<a href="mailto:remmyn@gmail.com">remmyn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">I meant dictate not dedicate please in line four.</div></div><div dir="auto">Thanks</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 8:59 AM Remmy Nweke <<a href="mailto:remmyn@gmail.com" target="_blank">remmyn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">Thanks for the comment Farzaneh </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I will for now respond to the issue on sharing formula, because I know wherever the external fund is warehoused will incur charges of transactions therefore, you have to provision for that incidental, whether it's 20 or 10 per cent respectively. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The organization or community warehousing via SPV should not be shortchanged as I expect them to give reports of what they are doing with their funds as stipulated in the Charter, I do not think it's in our place to dedicate to them on how to manage it but must be seen as carried along to know what they are doing and with the available fund.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I will revert later in the day on other issues and I hope we make our comments on the google doc so as to avoid missing any comments when some of these are resolved. I will also move this response there too.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">See you much later as I am headed out for mass. </div><div dir="auto">Thanks and best of the Sunday.</div><div dir="auto">Remmy</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 1:56 AM farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Remmy,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">This Paragraph:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><b style="font-weight:normal" id="m_-5018319274082288555m_-605973886903821499m_55799019949138136gmail-docs-internal-guid-f84fbba9-7751-fb31-79b5-489f2252d67c"><ol style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><ol style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:lower-alpha;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:7.2pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Volunteer Service</span></p></li></ol></ol><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:7.2pt;text-align:justify;padding:0pt 0pt 0pt 36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">NCSG Finance Committee members serve as volunteers, without compensation. This contribution is respected and appreciated. </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:7.2pt;text-align:justify;padding:0pt 0pt 0pt 36pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">However, reimbursement of reasonable and necessary expenses will be available for travel to face-to-face meetings and to outreach events as approved by the NCSG Finance Committee Chair, in accordance with applicable terms of ICANN's travel reimbursement policy.</span></p></b><br class="m_-5018319274082288555m_-605973886903821499m_55799019949138136gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">You are aware that the Finance Committee does not receive travel slots from ICANN? And then Finance Chair approves reimbursement of travel of Finance committee member? From what funding? I don't agree with this. I don't think Finance Committee can approve an allocation of travel to itself from outside funding. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Also this paragraph: </div><div class="gmail_default" style="text-align:start"><span id="m_-5018319274082288555m_-605973886903821499m_55799019949138136gmail-docs-internal-guid-733aa3b8-7756-2d2e-860b-74c085c4d7c9"><ol style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;display:inline!important"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:decimal;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;display:inline!important"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify;display:inline!important"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">6. </font></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;font-weight:700;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Disbursement of funds to constituencies:</span></p></li></ol></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><b style="font-weight:normal" id="m_-5018319274082288555m_-605973886903821499m_55799019949138136gmail-docs-internal-guid-733aa3b8-7756-2d2e-860b-74c085c4d7c9"><ol style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:upper-roman;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Any inflow arising from external funding, shall be distributed/disbursed based on 40-40-20 formula; that is, 40 per cent each for both constituencies (NPOC and NCUC) while the NCSG-FC retains 20 per cent</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(34,34,34);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">as a running cost for its administrative incidentals or as may be agreed with exercise of voting process on best module at the time of disbursement.</span></p></li></ol><br><ol style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" start="2"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:upper-roman;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(51,51,51);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Also, each constituency can apply for its own funding once pronouncement has been made on availability of any inflow with sufficient evidence on anticipated expenditure plan.</span></p></li></ol></b><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">F NCSG has to be included in these plans. There should be no allocation of distributed funding based on the percentage between constituencies but distribution should be based on requests. FC should at a more general level set the principles on how these requests will be processed. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:14.6667px;text-align:justify;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">and 20 percent goes to FC? I don't really understand why. </span>what is administrative incidental? Don't know what this means:<span id="m_-5018319274082288555m_-605973886903821499m_55799019949138136gmail-docs-internal-guid-733aa3b8-7756-2d2e-860b-74c085c4d7c9"><ol style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;display:inline!important"><li dir="ltr" style="list-style-type:upper-roman;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap;display:inline!important"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.2;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify;display:inline!important"><span style="font-size:11pt;background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> or as may be agreed with exercise of voting process on best module at the time of disbursement. </span></p></li></ol></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 5:44 PM farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">Not really remmy. First draft can be shared with members on your personal behalf, set a deadline for their comments. FC can also make comments during this time. You can give the members 3-4 weeks to comment. Then we discuss at FC level. If we make major substantive changes we need to consult with members again and then see if we can adopt it </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 5:36 PM Remmy Nweke <<a href="mailto:remmyn@gmail.com" target="_blank">remmyn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Yes Farzaneh, of course it will be shared at the NCSG mailing list, but I will advise we review it first, take in a few comments from the FC and observers inclusive before then.<div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto">Before now no body here has seen it outside me, so it will be disrespectful for now until may be by end of this coming week for people to turn in their first phase of review/comments if any on the draft.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Bearing in mind if it goes out, it's on behalf of FC, which Thato got to do in his current capacity as chair, I can only deputise for him for now.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I so plead and thanks for your understanding madam chair and all.</div></div></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Remmy Nweke</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, 7 Jul 2018 9:49 pm farzaneh badii, <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">Thank you </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">please share this on the ncsg mailing list as well. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 3:06 PM Remmy Nweke <<a href="mailto:remmyn@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">remmyn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear all,<div>Hope this meets us all well.</div><div><br></div><div>Please find below the Google Doc link to the <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/15v4rGUoLR1EOkCLZKhM_qqMWCv8MM6xA/view?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">DRAFT NCSG-FC Operating Procedures</a> for your input and flesh-up.</div><div><br></div><div>We may need also agree on the duration of period for comments on this draft moving forward to enable us resolve the draft and prepare it for further actions as may be decided.</div><div><br></div><div>Do well to acknowledge.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>Remmy</div><div><br></div><div dir="auto">Sorry Farnaeh,<div dir="auto">As much as I appreciate your intentions, I think the comments should be in the Google Doc, Which I think is still available for NCSG public except if the comment period is over.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But basically the document should be all encompassing for all committees rather than exclusive for PC and urge you to use your good offices to correct that impression.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I am still thinking why FC was not even considered in the preparation of the document ab nitio. It will be nice to know.</div><div dir="auto">Regards</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 7 Jul 2018 2:22 pm, "farzaneh badii" <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_-5018319274082288555m_-605973886903821499m_55799019949138136m_6206686713874698843m_-8111496041436812594m_6455581773974531558m_-371279345421850031m_-1514382081845979851m_4033247453234947484quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">I only shared this document with you as finance committee to consider the broader principles of operating procedures. I did not share so that you comment as FC. If you have comments please share with NCSG mailing list before the deadline. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"> </div></div><div class="m_-5018319274082288555m_-605973886903821499m_55799019949138136m_6206686713874698843m_-8111496041436812594m_6455581773974531558m_-371279345421850031m_-1514382081845979851m_4033247453234947484elided-text"><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 8:35 AM Remmy Nweke <<a href="mailto:remmyn@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">remmyn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">Thanks for sending this across Farzaneh</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have taken time to run through it and has since added some comments in it believing that NCSG is for all the stakeholders constituency under its schedule and I hope it's resolved as part of document for EC approval on July 8.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The PC focus of the document for me is a little myopic as I expect it to be all encompassing and looking at the big picture of NCSG and should have taken other relevant committees under NCSG.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 12:29 PM farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">Thato </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"> I only sent this for FC as a sample to think about overarching rules and principles for operating procedures. </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 7:03 AM Thato Mfikwe <<a href="mailto:thatomfikwe@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">thatomfikwe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks Farzii,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Will take time to look at it and provide comments, thanks.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 4:34 AM, farzaneh badii <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Please find below a link to NCSG travel policy which has not yet been approved by NCSG EC. </div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The EC will discuss this policy after 8 July and we will decide on approving it.</div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sSJWajPGAIz9_mwNFiS7YlUg5CYtKdN5HejtaVojXo0/edit#" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sSJWajPGAIz9_mwNFiS7YlUg5CYtKdN5HejtaVojXo0/edit#</a></font><br></div><div><br></div><div>Best </div><span class="m_-5018319274082288555m_-605973886903821499m_55799019949138136m_6206686713874698843m_-8111496041436812594m_6455581773974531558m_-371279345421850031m_-1514382081845979851m_4033247453234947484m_-3940378609282946639m_-6091675467808755734m_6312268351523362045m_1344836355095790619HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-5018319274082288555m_-605973886903821499m_55799019949138136m_6206686713874698843m_-8111496041436812594m_6455581773974531558m_-371279345421850031m_-1514382081845979851m_4033247453234947484m_-3940378609282946639m_-6091675467808755734m_6312268351523362045m_1344836355095790619m_3840024025314098187gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div></font></span></div>
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