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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">All,<br>
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Sadly I cannot be there, so I support Ed's position:<br>
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<i><span style="font-family: 'Lucida Sans Unicode','Lucida
Grande',Sans-Serif; font-size: 14px">"....we should either go
in that direction (and I'll try to discover on the weekend
whether there is interest in participating on the part of
other GNSO parties) or we should cancel the meeting all
together."<br>
<br>
</span></i><span style="font-family: 'Lucida Sans
Unicode','Lucida Grande',Sans-Serif; font-size: 14px">Hopefully
we will have made substantial progress so that by ICANN 60 we
can deal with substantive issues and opportunities.<br>
<br>
All the best to the assembled crew.<br>
<br>
Sam L. <br>
</span><br>
<font color="#660000" size="-2">On 6/22/2017 9:55 AM, Edward
Morris wrote:<br>
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<div><font color="#660000" size="-2">Hello,</font></div>
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<div><font color="#660000" size="-2">As everyone is aware, the
NCSG Finance Committee has a 90 minute meeting slot reserved
at ICANN 59 in Johannesburg. We are scheduled to meet
between 10:30 and noon local time. On our last call we began
to discuss what to do with this meeting slot but we ran out
of time to complete the discussion.</font></div>
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<div><font color="#660000" size="-2"> </font></div>
<font color="#660000" size="-2">
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<div><font color="#660000" size="-2">I see no reason to use this
slot for a regular FC meeting. The following played a role
in this evaluation:</font></div>
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<div><font color="#660000" size="-2">1. We just had a 90 minute
meeting covering all of the pertinent items before us. The
action items from the 20 June meeting will not be completed
before 27 June.</font></div>
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</font>
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<div><font color="#660000" size="-2">2. FC member Sam Lanfranco
will not be in Johannesburg and the time difference would
make this remote participation problematic.</font></div>
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<div><font color="#660000" size="-2"> </font></div>
<font color="#660000" size="-2">
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<div><font color="#660000" size="-2">I don't like meeting for
the sake of meeting. I am very cognisant that we are all
volunteers here and I don't want to needlessly take anyone's
time. I don't see any need for a meeting on the 27th. Of
note, I do plan on asking ICANN Finance to send a member to
attend our next call post-ICANN 59 to respond to items that
came up on our call of 20 June.</font></div>
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</font>
<div><font color="#660000" size="-2"> </font></div>
<font color="#660000" size="-2">
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<div><font color="#660000" size="-2">During our last call, I
proposed to use the slot, provided I could get buy in from
other parties, to bring together our colleagues in the GNSO
with NC (NCSG, NCUC, NPOC) FC and EC members who are in
South Africa to discuss the GNSO approach to the budget. The
Empowered Community places community responsibility for
budgetary matters in the SO and not in the SG or C's. While
ALAC and the CCNSO, for example, provide unified comments to
Finance on budgetary matters, the GNSO provides multiple
comments from the SG's, C's and Council. It's my belief that
this weakens all of us in the GNSO in intracommunity
budgetary deliberations. It would be my hope that coming
together we might be able to figure a way to work together
to strengthen all of our budgetary proposals.</font></div>
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<div><font color="#660000" size="-2"> </font></div>
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<div><font color="#660000" size="-2">In my view we should either
go in that direction (and I'll try to discover on the
weekend whether there is interest in participating on the
part of other GNSO parties) or we should cancel the meeting
all together.</font></div>
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</font>
<div><font color="#660000" size="-2"> </font></div>
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<div><font color="#660000" size="-2">I'll wait to hear from the
other FC members before doing anything further.</font></div>
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<div><font color="#660000" size="-2"> </font></div>
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<div><font color="#660000" size="-2">Kind Regards,</font></div>
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<div><font color="#660000" size="-2">Edward Morris</font></div>
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