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<div>As we know, the NCSG has no bank account. When Robin Gross was Chair of the NCSG she did raise money and hold events but I believe the financial part was always done through the NCUC.</div>
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<div>Tapani, you've been the leader within the NCSG and NCUC in trying to both open up the archives of these organizations and to bring transparency into the current processes. Can you tell us anything about the past history of the NCSG FC or, indeed, anything to do with finance in our SG? </div>
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<div>I do understand we did receive funds last year for the new database. Would you be able to tell us what procedure a group lacking a bank account used to receive and spend the monies? I think that will help identify some areas we need to work on.</div>
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<div>I will also note that in terms of equity, that our SG does include two constituencies that do interact with ICANN in many ways. I take our remit under the Charter to include insuring our two constituencies are treated fairly by ICANN. Thoughts?</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
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<div><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><b>From</b>: "Sam Lanfranco" <lanfran@yorku.ca><br />
<b>Sent</b>: Friday, January 13, 2017 9:52 PM<br />
<b>To</b>: egmorris1@toast.net, "NCSG Finance Committee" <ncsg-fc@lists.ncsg.is><br />
<b>Subject</b>: Re: [NCSG-FC] Acknowledgement, thanks and request</span>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Ed, I think that this is a good and wise suggestion. As a prior step to such a meeting it is important that we, the NCSG Finance Committee, have some historical record of NCSG accounts for the past several years. I for one am completely in the dark as to what funds there are, where they come from, who administers them, and where to find the reports of transactions for the past two or three years.<br />
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I would find it embarrassing to have a meeting with Xavier where we put a request on the table to insure that "the NCSG and its Constituencies receive fair and equivalent financial support from ICANN" but were unable to say what we have had in the past, how it was spent, and how it is administered.<br />
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<font size="-1"><i>On 1/13/2017 3:58 PM, Edward Morris wrote:</i></font></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: 'Lucida Sans
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<div><span style="font-family: 'Lucida Sans
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<div><span style="font-family: 'Lucida Sans
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