<div dir="ltr">@ Stephanie, I'd be interested to work with you on this. We can also schedule an hour meeting to discuss since we are in the same time zone. I also know a couple of people interested in joining the write-up and the approach we can adopt.<div><br></div><div>But first, let me do some basic breakdown using the GNSO and ALAC as comparison vs the fact that the new bylaw continues to empower delegates as voting members means that if ALAC has 5 votes as a single constituency based on their RALOs, then, we are short playing ourselves if we don't get 3 slots for NCUC, NPOC, and NCSG. However, that is not realistic and will never be considered. what I think is realistic is to get the 2 slots distributed between NCUC and NPOC but decided by NCSG which is the mothership. The additional implication is that numbers-wise, we can be out-voted if our interest does not align.</div><div><br></div><div>I also understand that when we send representatives there, they look at the overall perspective of ICANN as an ORG. However, there are human elements and biases when it comes to constituency reflection on the board and other roles.<br></div><div><br></div><div><img src="cid:ii_lgzabat20" alt="image.png" width="674" height="307" style="margin-right:0px"><br></div><div><br></div><div>Visually from the image above, it shows that BC and RSG has two slots. What we can consider is approach through backchanneling for balancing from this perspective.</div><div><br></div><div>On the other hand, as per the new bylaw change request, there is a blank cheque here by the strike-through in the document. What I rather perceive is that there is a big reset here that allows all seven GNSO folks to come together and reconfigure. What the strike-through means is that we give you guys 7 slots, go fix it amongst yourselves.</div><div>Quoting Julf from a different exchange which I totally agree with ."GNSO to give NCSG 2</div><div>slots and the CSG to have 3 slots and CPH to have 2 slots"</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><img src="cid:ii_lgzbbtc43" alt="image.png" width="472" height="235"><br></div><div><br></div><div>The strikethrough in the image below technically means the NCUC does not have the unique powers to only send someone to NomCom as decided by their EC alone. </div><div dir="auto">It empowers NCSG more this time. This then means NCSG will try to balance both NCUC/ NPOC internally.</div><div><img src="cid:ii_lgzbaoz72" alt="image.png" width="472" height="208"><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 7:30 AM Johan Helsingius via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Indeed. We need to be purely fact-based, as we are facing a lot of "the<br>
non-commercials just feel they are not important enough". We definitely<br>
need to hear both from our nomcom reps as well as those involved in the<br>
review specifically.<br>
<br>
It would be great if you could take the lead. Should we open the<br>
discussion to our whole membership?<br>
<br>
Julf<br>
<br>
On 27/04/2023 06:35, Digital wrote:<br>
> I would say that this calls for a very thorough, fact-packed response, not just a shrill shriek about fairness. It needs a qualitative review of past selections….who exactly have the ALAC reps been picking over the past 20 Years ? (I know I know, we cant get that data) . How are end users actually protected in this community, snd what role should nomcom nominees play in that regard?<br>
> May I just add that “at a point in time” is one of the most meaningless cliches in the english language. this exercise may well be equally meaningless but we have to give it our best effort. Happy to volunteer to draft, but we need to contact everyone who worked on the nomcom review for their input, I can think of Wolfgang and Brenden but doubtless there were others.<br>
> cheers Steph<br>
> <br>
> Sent from my iPhone<br>
> <br>
>> On Apr 27, 2023, at 00:37, Johan Helsingius <<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank">julf@julf.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Wow!<br>
>><br>
>> Julf<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------<br>
>> Subject: [CORRESPONDENCE] Tripti Sinha to Johan (Julf) Helsingius RE: NomCom Rebalancing<br>
>> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 19:34:24 +0000<br>
>> From: Wendy Profit <<a href="mailto:wendy.profit@icann.org" target="_blank">wendy.profit@icann.org</a>><br>
>> To: <a href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank">julf@julf.com</a> <<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank">julf@julf.com</a>><br>
>> CC: <a href="mailto:tripti.sinha@board.icann.org" target="_blank">tripti.sinha@board.icann.org</a> <<a href="mailto:tripti.sinha@board.icann.org" target="_blank">tripti.sinha@board.icann.org</a>>, Correspondence <<a href="mailto:Correspondence@icann.org" target="_blank">Correspondence@icann.org</a>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Dear Johan (Julf) Helsingius,<br>
>><br>
>> Please find the attached letter from Tripti Sinha, Chair, ICANN Board of Directors regarding NomCom Rebalancing.<br>
>><br>
>> Thank you and best regards,<br>
>><br>
>> Wendy Profit<br>
>><br>
>> Board Operations Senior Manager<br>
>><br>
>> ICANN<br>
>> <2023-04-26 Tripti Sinha to Julf Helsingius re NomCom Rebalancing.pdf><br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div><span>-- </span><br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><b><font color="#000000">Caleb Ogundele</font></b><div><font color="#000000">Email: <a href="mailto:muyiwacaleb@gmail.com" target="_blank">muyiwacaleb@gmail.com</a></font></div></div></div>