<div dir="ltr">One alternative would be to issue the invitations on a case by case basis. When we consider the agenda to not be sensitive he could join, otherwise not. <div><br></div><div>My only concern is this: the presence of someone not affiliated with the NCSG could result on some disturbances to our internal discussions. </div><div><br></div><div>Best, </div><div>B</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 10:14 PM Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Representing NPOC in the EC and reviewing how sensitive this could turn out, please permit me to have this discussion with my EC in NPOC. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">However, in my personal opinion not wearing any cap, I share your sentiments and would want us to find a middle ground where we can have safe spaces for everyone to engage actively. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 2:57 PM Tomslin Samme-Nlar via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Greetings all.</div><div><br></div><div>When this was brought up for discussion during our January policy meeting, there was collective agreement that we are happy to communicate and engage with Paul about our policy positions prior to them being discussed at the council; however, he should <b>NOT</b> be present during internal NCSG debates of those policies. The rationale was that despite him being an NCA councilor, he remains a member of IPC and therefore his presence during internal debates will give members a sense that an adversary is present and will impact the freedom and openness of the debate.</div><div><br></div><div>If the EC has any concern about this decision, the PC and the EC could jointly have a chat to clarify this.<br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Warmly,<br></div>Tomslin<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px"></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:12.8px">@LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomslin/</a><br></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 at 10:43, Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Fine with me.  Thank you.<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Robin</div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 19, 2023, at 2:48 PM, Andrea Glandon via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Hello leadership,<span> </span><u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Please see the request below and let me know if Paul should be added to future NCSG Membership/Policy invitations.<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Thanks!<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Kind Regards,<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Andrea<u></u><u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:12pt">From:<span> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:12pt">Terri Agnew <<a href="mailto:terri.agnew@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">terri.agnew@icann.org</a>><br><b>Date:<span> </span></b>Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 16:16<br><b>To:<span> </span></b>Paul McGrady <<a href="mailto:mcgradygnso@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mcgradygnso@gmail.com</a>>, Andrea Glandon <<a href="mailto:andrea.glandon@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">andrea.glandon@icann.org</a>>, Brenda Brewer <<a href="mailto:brenda.brewer@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">brenda.brewer@icann.org</a>><br><b>Cc:<span> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject:<span> </span></b>NCPH Councilors | Paul McGrady request<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Dear Andrea and Brenda,</div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Paul McGrady (on copy) is the GNSO Council NCA rep and is asking if he could get links/invites to where the non-contracted parties have their meetings times/zoom link, etc so he could start attending these meetings.</div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Thank you for any help provided!</div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Kindest regards,</div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Terri</div><div style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline">NCSG-EC mailing list</span><br style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><a href="mailto:NCSG-EC@lists.ncsg.is" style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">NCSG-EC@lists.ncsg.is</a><br style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><a href="https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec" style="font-family:TimesNewRomanPSMT;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-ec</a></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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