<div dir="ltr">Thanks, Andrea and all for the replies! <br><br>So, my take is that we need to be a bit more careful when requesting sessions to leadership, Ephraim. I was not aware that you had also requested one to NCUC - or NCUC requested one itself - and in order to avoid replicating the requests in an already disputed meeting I opened this thread. We are not yet back to meetings as they were before and there's still an impending limitation of space and resources available. <div><br></div><div>Therefore, I would like to add if all NCUC requests were accommodated as I also believe some of them should be addressed at the NCSG level instead of the NCUC one. We have always agreed around policy topics being defined at the SG level and I happen to think it's confusing to conduct policy sessions dedicated to anything beyond capacity building - but I might be a minority here. </div><div><br></div><div>If <a class="gmail_plusreply" id="plusReplyChip-0" href="mailto:benakin@gmail.com" tabindex="-1">@Benjamin Akinmoyeje</a> agrees I think the best thing would be to have the HRIA session as a CCWP-HR sponsored one as it helps frame it as a little more open and would even attract additional interest from other parts of the community. But apparently we would only have availability for doing this one while in conflict with Council so Im a bit confused on how to proceed. <a class="gmail_plusreply" id="plusReplyChip-1" href="mailto:andrea.glandon@icann.org" tabindex="-1">@Andrea Glandon</a> cant we find an early morning session slot in order to avoid this clash with council ? Considering the HRIA also addressed the ODA it would be relevant for us to speak about in that space as well. </div><div><br></div><div>Best, </div><div>B<br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 3:24 PM Ephraim Percy Kenyanito <<a href="mailto:hello@ekenyanito.com">hello@ekenyanito.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Dear Bruna, Andrea and Benjamin,</p>
    <p>I am okay with merging the proposed session on Human Rights to be
      one- but can it be worded as follows:- "Implementation of the
      ICANN By Law on Human Rights- case study- SSAD and ODA
      Recommendations" and place it as sponspored by both NCSG and NCUC?</p>
    <p>Best Regards,</p>
    <p>Ephraim Percy Kenyanito<br>
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    <div>On 19/07/2022 16:07, Benjamin
      Akinmoyeje wrote:<br>
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        <div>Dear Bruna,</div>
        <div>Thank you for your email.</div>
        <div>In response to the request for sessions. I put out a
          documents for members atleast ECs and some NCUC leaders to add
          items, here is what we have <br>
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          <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" id="gmail-m_1228133476579632930gmail-docs-internal-guid-1d3dd44c-7fff-ed74-81a2-47c8b700bf5a"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">1.ICANN Public Comment: Initial Report on Transfer Policy Review - Phase 1(a)</span></p>
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          <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">2.Non Commercial perspective on Closed Generics</span></p>
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          <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">3.Non Commercial New gTLDs Applicant Support</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> (building on the work of the SubPro Working Group and new initiatives to move forward by GNSO Council.  Questions include: who are the “outside experts'' that ICANN should engage to help frame and write the Applicant Support process?  We are a unique voice in this process because our members include organizations from the Global South, indigenous communities (in Global South and Global North), minority communities, and IDN experts.  We should be able to provide special input on this very important matter and a path to solving this long standing problem in ICANN.)  </span></p>
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          <p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">4.Human Right Impact Assessment  for SSAD and ODA </span></p>
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          <p style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Benjamin </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:700;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 2:34
          PM Andrea Glandon <<a href="mailto:andrea.glandon@icann.org" target="_blank">andrea.glandon@icann.org</a>>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Hello Bruna!</p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">I can help with these questions. 
                NPOC has asked for a 60 min membership session.  NCUC
                has also asked for a 60 min membership session.  In
                addition, NCUC has asked for another session, with topic
                still to be determined.  One of the topics submitted is
                the Human Rights assessment of SSAD and ODA.  This slot
                has been reserved, as he asked for it a few days ago.  I
                would like to ask if this slot can be merged with the
                NCSG request since it seems to be a similar topic? At
                this point we are out of slots that do not conflict with
                GNSO sessions.  Today is the very last day to get
                sessions submitted. The 90 min slots are very limited
                and I was only able to get 1 for NCSG, with the other
                slot being 60 min.</p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">There is a slot Monday (60 min), last
                slot of the day, against the GNSO/GAC joint meeting.
              </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">First slot Tuesday morning against
                the GNSO Council/Board (60 min).</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">2 slots during the GNSO Council
                meeting on Wednesday.</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">Last slot of the day on Wednesday
                against the GNSO/ALAC joint meeting.</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">A slot on the last day against the
                GNSO Council Wrap up</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks!</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Kind Regards,</p>
                <p class="MsoNormal">Andrea</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec-bounces@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-ec-bounces@lists.ncsg.is</a>>
                    on behalf of Bruna Martins dos Santos via NCSG-EC
                    <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>><br>
                    <b>Reply-To: </b>Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>><br>
                    <b>Date: </b>Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 04:24<br>
                    <b>To: </b>Benjamin Akinmoyeje <<a href="mailto:benakin@gmail.com" target="_blank">benakin@gmail.com</a>>,
                    Raoul Plommer <<a href="mailto:plommer@gmail.com" target="_blank">plommer@gmail.com</a>>,
                    Tomslin Samme-Nlar <<a href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com" target="_blank">mesumbeslin@gmail.com</a>>,
                    NCSG EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>>,
                    Ephraim Percy Kenyanito <<a href="mailto:ephraim@article19.org" target="_blank">ephraim@article19.org</a>><br>
                    <b>Subject: </b>[Ext] [NCSG-EC] ICANN 75 Meetings</span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Heya everyone,  </p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Hope this email finds you well! </p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">So, I am still having some
                    conversations with Andrea about the meetings we are
                    requesting for ICANN75 and, so far, we have
                    requested two 90 min sessions:  one for Policy
                    Committee and another for NCSG Membership Meeting.</p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Given <a href="mailto:ephraim@article19.org" target="_blank">@Ephraim
                      Percy Kenyanito</a> request for us to try to
                    accommodate a HRIA session, I have asked Andrea to
                    check the availability of rooms and apparently we
                    can either book a sign-up room with no services or
                    take a slot that is open knowing there will be
                    conflicts (in this case with two GNSO meetings). </p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Therefore, in order for us to be
                    able to better coordinate amongst ourselves on this
                    meetings and rooms availability, i'd like to ask <a href="mailto:plommer@gmail.com" target="_blank">@Raoul Plommer</a> and <a href="mailto:benakin@gmail.com" target="_blank">@Benjamin Akinmoyeje</a> to
                    please share with us the list of meetings you
                    requested. I think it's best for us to be in touch
                    with one another this time to improve coordination
                    (: <br>
                    <br>
                    Last but not least, I'd ask <a href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com" target="_blank">@Tomslin
                      Samme-Nlar</a> and <a href="mailto:ephraim@article19.org" target="_blank">@Ephraim
                      Percy Kenyanito</a> about the HRIA session, should
                    we follow up with taking one that's conflicting
                    with a Council meeting?</p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">best, </p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Bruna </p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i>Bruna Martins
                                      dos Santos </i></b></p>
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                                <p style="margin:0in"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">German
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                                      Alexander von Humboldt Foundation
                                      [humboldt-foundation.de]</a></span></p>
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                                  Researcher (Gastwissenschaftlerin) | <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/wzb.eu/en__;!!PtGJab4!80imfj9oD-lYMfx3uI9AxM9hQ9ouZqftSTJ8D68TkapwEu6PvKhMmNY1iw9v4XvuKqLzI1kizHsUcymeF4s2EdNztPp8Lg$" target="_blank">Wissenschaftszentrum
                                    Berlin für Sozialforschung (WZB)
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                                  <span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Member
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                                      Coalizão Direitos na Rede
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                                      Stakeholder Group at ICANN
                                      [gnso.icann.org]</a><br>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Twitter: <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/twitter.com/boomartins__;!!PtGJab4!80imfj9oD-lYMfx3uI9AxM9hQ9ouZqftSTJ8D68TkapwEu6PvKhMmNY1iw9v4XvuKqLzI1kizHsUcymeF4s2EdNi586UVA$" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">@</span>boomartins
                                        [twitter.com]</a> // </span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,36)">Skype:
                                      bruna.martinsantos</span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><u><span style="font-size:7.5pt;color:rgb(0,0,238)"><a href="mailto:bruna.martinsdossantos@wzb.eu" target="_blank">bruna.martinsdossantos@wzb.eu</a></span></u><span style="font-size:7.5pt"> and
                                    <a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a></span></p>
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