<div dir="ltr">Heya, Julf, thanks a lot for commenting on that. Im looking at these meetings as an opportunity to establish a conversation between us and the GAC, not sure how our members feel about that but my main goal is to reset the dialogue. <div><br></div><div>So id say we maybe need to internally set up agenda items really quick before i go on and schedule the conversation. And I believe closed generics is the main topic, right ? </div><div><br></div><div>Best, </div><div>B</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 2:35 PM Johan Helsingius <<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com">julf@julf.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear Bruna,<br>
<br>
As a former GAC liaison, I think it is a good idea, and we should<br>
definitely try. One challenge is that GAC doesn't really do "small"<br>
(or "informal") apart from clearly defined and designated sub-teams<br>
or representatives (such as "leadership" or "working group<br>
representatives"). With enough lead time, they might be able to do<br>
something like "a few members working on topic X", but in that case<br>
they might not represent the GAC overall view.<br>
<br>
We also have to remember that our best hope from small meetings with<br>
them is to better understand their concerns, arguments and positions.<br>
There is not much chance to actually influence them . that has to<br>
happen through the GNSO council that needs to get better at pushing<br>
back at GAC and the board.<br>
<br>
Julf<br>
<br>
On 17-05-2022 14:21, Bruna Martins dos Santos wrote:<br>
> Dear all,<br>
> <br>
> Hope you are well!<br>
> <br>
> I just wanted to let you know that im going to reach out to the CSG and <br>
> the GAC for possible small meetings onsite during ICANN 74.<br>
> <br>
> We have been discussing this possibility/need for a while now and I <br>
> think we should take some advantage from the onsite interactions in The <br>
> Hague! Please let me know if you have any suggestions of topics for <br>
> discussion with both groups.<br>
> <br>
> Best,<br>
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