<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">7.2c of the bylaws talks about it, but we have nothing specific in our charter to guide us in interpreting the rules.  Dual citizenship folks are free to choose, but people are so mobile these days, where are their principle residences?  Not always clear.....but if we are okay with letting them elect, then we are fine.  I am relying on Ed’s note and interpretation....nobody has argued with it then or now, as far as I dug in the archives.<div>I think the letter should simply restate our criteria, including best efforts for gender and regional balance.  I don’t want to re-debate these issues, unless the you folks in the EC say we should.</div><div>Given that we have two vacancies now, I would suggest that knowledge and experience (participation) are key factors.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for responding!</div><div>Steph<br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 9, 2020, at 21:32, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix <rbeauregardlacroix@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="ltr">I'm fine with the message, at least as far as most of its contents go it should be pretty straightforward. <div><br></div><div>I'm still not clear on what we decided about the whole geography question though. It seems that there are actually no strict criteria, except that we try not to have two councillors from the same GNSO SOI-declared region? </div><div><br></div><div>Does that imply we need to specifically include that in the call? Meaning that right now Europe would be deprioritized because we already have two? </div><div><br></div><div>Have a nice evening,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 4:59 PM Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">



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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">And here, for your reference, is the note to the list which I sent on December 16th.  Now, as has been pointed out rather eloquently by Robin, my failure to check the website's accuracy thoroughly by comparing with
 the official GNSO Council list, led to a great deal of discussion/confusion about regional representation.  Now that this particular can of worms has been opened, I expect that we will have the matter re-discussed on the list.  Note that Tapani made no mention
 of the subject in his email call, which I think was an omission, but I stand ready to be corrected.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">regards, <br>
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<div>On 2020-01-09 16:48, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC wrote:<br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">So here is the call for volunteers which Tapani sent out in February 2017, to seek volunteers for Amr's position.    Let me know your thoughts on using this email as a base for a new call for volunteers, and what
 improvements you would like to see..</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Given that Martin has indicated his intention to resign as of Feb 1, I would recommend adding the sentence "Please note that the field of candidates as ranked by the NCSG-EC will be used to fill any future council
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Kind regards, Steph<br>
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<pre style="font-size:13px;white-space:pre-wrap">Dear all,

As Amr Elsadr resigned from the council upon joining the staff, the
NCSG Executive Committee needs to appoint a temporary alternate to
replace him.

If you are interested in the job, please let me know as soon as
possible, but no later than Wednesday February 22 (one week from now).
The appointment is on the agenda of EC meeting on February 24, and we'd
want to have list of names at least two days in advance so we'll have
time to review them.

Please explain why you think you'd be good for the task and confirm
you could commit to the time it takes. Jumping in to the council
mid-term is not easy, so experience is one key criteria for the EC in
considering the appointment.

The term extends until ICANN60 in the fall in Abu Dhabi, although the
appointment can be made for a shorter time if the EC so chooses.
If this makes a difference for you, for example if you'd only be able
to do shorter time, or if you would not be interested in a shorter
appointment, let us know that, too.

Thank you,

-- 
Tapani Tarvainen</pre>
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