<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Well, it has been educational for all, which is a goal. My fault for not noticing that the list was not accurate, I really thought Elsa was repping mena so did not note the error.<div>Would you like to edit my previous note, or start from Scratch and rewrite it? </div><div>Cheers SP</div><div><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Dec 17, 2019, at 12:06, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC <ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="ltr">Yes. Wasn't aware of the geographical complexities of the matter. <div><br></div><div>My suggestion: stick with the GNSO Council criteria rather than our own or those that apply to ICANN directors. Not that I have anything against the other ones, but I feel that this being a GNSO Council position, it would make most sense to take their rules for consistency sake.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:40 AM Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Given all of the confusion on the main NCSG discuss list from yesterday’s call for interest to fill this position, I suggest that we, the EC, send a clarification and new call, that spells out the regional issues. Having various people weigh-in on their personal interpretations on the main list hasn’t been very helpful in clarifying the matter. <div><br></div><div>This communication needs to come from the EC and it should be approved by the EC before it is sent so we don’t have these kinds of misunderstandings. These are EC decisions, so the entire EC needs to be included in them.<div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Robin<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Dec 15, 2019, at 8:35 PM, Raphael Beauregard-Lacroix <<a href="mailto:rbeauregardlacroix@gmail.com" target="_blank">rbeauregardlacroix@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">Let's stick to our written rules for now, yes.</div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Have a nice day. </div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 11:41 Robin Gross via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>This is very sad news indeed. Hopefully a time will come when Farzi feels safe to come back to NCSG, as we are losing one of most dedicated and smartest workers - and our ex-chair. Truly a sad moment.<div><br></div><div>I would not be in favor of violating our charter regarding Farzi’s replacement. It was an intentional choice of the charter’s drafters to make GNSO Council replacements an EC appointment as opposed to an election. It was intended as a minority protection for the smaller constituency in the NCSG, who felt they would have difficulty winning SG-wide Council elections but would have an equal shot at an EC appointment. And indeed that is how we have handled the matter of Council replacement in the past and up until now. For example, Wolfgang K. had just been elected to the GNSO Council as our rep, but then was immediately appointed to the ICANN Board, so we (the EC) had to fill that new Council seat. We followed our charter then and indeed it was an NPOC member (Klaus) whom we appointed to fill that seat and was NPOC’s first Councilor as a result. So the charter has been working as intended up until now on this point and I would not be in favor of violating the letter nor the spirit of the charter on those intentions. </div><div><br></div><div>If people believe it is better for NCSG to hold an election to fill the seat, then we should change our charter to do that. What we should not do is ignore or violate our charter because we think we have a better idea.</div><div><br></div><div>So I would be in favor of the call for expressions of interest and then following our charter on dealing with the interest.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Robin</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Dec 15, 2019, at 5:44 AM, Stephanie Perrin via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>
<div><p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">We have just received a formal resignation from Farzi. I am sorry that efforts to get her to stay have failed, but I guess that we have to proceed with finding a replacement for the remainder of her term. The
Charter specifies that we select a replacement, not run an election, but we could run an election, there is nothing to prevent it. I prefer to run democratic processes wherever possible, personally, but if it is your preference to stick to the precise words
of the Charter, that is fine. I am waiting for Farzi's formal resignation on the NCSG discuss list, if it does not transpire shortly, I would suggest that we go to the list and seek parties expressing an interest. Thoughts?</font></font></p><p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie</font></font></p><p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">NCSG Chair</font></font><br>
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