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El jueves, 14 de noviembre de 2019 05:17:06 p. m. GMT-5, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca> escribió:
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers Steph</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">PS I am sending David the complaint with the name removed. I do not want to receive a privacy complaint on top of everything else.</font></font><br clear="none">
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<div>El miércoles, 13 de noviembre de 2019 06:20:26 p. m. GMT-5, Raphaël Beauregard-Lacroix via NCSG-EC
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<div>I will reach out to her and explain how our membership system works. If you all agree, I will notify David immediately that he has to change his membership status in NCSG to individual. I guess that means dropping out of NPOC?
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<b>To:</b> Stephanie Perrin <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:stephanie.perrin@MAIL.UTORONTO.CA" target="_blank" href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@MAIL.UTORONTO.CA">stephanie.perrin@MAIL.UTORONTO.CA</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> <b>FW: [Ext] David Cake is not an authorised representative/contributor from Electronic Frontiers Australia</b><br clear="none">
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<b>To: </b>Maryam Bakoshi <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Cc: </b>Peter Tonoli <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:peter@metaverse.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:peter@metaverse.org">peter@metaverse.org</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Subject: </b>[Ext] David Cake is not an authorised representative/contributor from Electronic Frontiers Australia</span></p>
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<p class="yiv0891614287MsoNormal">David Cake in no way has authority from the EFA board to do this. David was not renominated for the board in 2017. In 2018 he was renominated, however shortly after the board unanimously voted to remove him. He does not have
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