<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Yes, let’s use the secret ballots as a privacy safeguard in the election.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks,</div><div class="">Robin</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 6, 2018, at 12:39 PM, farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" class="">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">So what's the verdict on this, EC? Shall we go with secret ballots? </div></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 10:22 AM Maryam Bakoshi <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" class="">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple" class=""><div class="m_8603240268468625132WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class="">Hi Raoul, All,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class="">In previous elections using the Open ballot system, a few members complained that they were able to work out how others voted from the breakdown of results.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class="">Please see attached. For Open ballots the results show the email of the voter, while for the Secret ballot it only shows a unique ID, which is anonymous and cannot be traced.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class="">I hope this helps.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class="">--<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class="">Many thanks,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class="">Maryam Bakoshi</span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""> | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class="">ICANN</span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""> | Internet Corporation got Assigned Names and Numbers <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class="">S</span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class="">: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | <b class="">T</b>: +44 7846 471777<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 32, 96);" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec-bounces@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank" class="">ncsg-ec-bounces@lists.ncsg.is</a>> on behalf of NCSG EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank" class="">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>><br class=""><b class="">Reply-To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Friday, 3 August 2018 at 13:14<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Raoul Plommer <<a href="mailto:plommer@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">plommer@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>NCSG EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank" class="">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>[Ext] Re: [NCSG-EC] Elections- secret ballots<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div></div></div><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple" class=""><div class="m_8603240268468625132WordSection1"><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Maryam reminded me that there was a problem last year that people complained. If she can explain that would be good. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p></div></div></div></div></div><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple" class=""><div class="m_8603240268468625132WordSection1"><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 3:53 AM Raoul Plommer <<a href="mailto:plommer@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">plommer@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple" class=""><div class="m_8603240268468625132WordSection1"><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Exactly WHO are able to "work out how a person voted from emails" ...staff? I don't think other voters know that. Closed ballot could be good, as long as we can somehow verify that the votes were given to the right people. I don't really have a problem with Maryam knowing who voted for who.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">-Raoul<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">On 2 August 2018 at 20:42, farzaneh badii via NCSG-EC <<a href="mailto:ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank" class="">ncsg-ec@lists.ncsg.is</a>> wrote:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Dear all,<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">there have have complaints in previous elections about people being able to work out how a person voted in an open ballot, so there is an option to do closed ballot. </span>Such that the details are not available as to how an email address voted. Preferably we should do that.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Best <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);" class="">Farzaneh</span><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple" class=""><div class="m_8603240268468625132WordSection1"><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; 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