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<p>Thanks Rafik</p>
<p>Not sure much was agreed except that we need to deal with it and
we are running out of time.</p>
<p>First we had the timeline from Greg before the meeting, which was
not really discussed further. Then we had some general discussion
about the need to do something on the Board selection process.
People voiced their views on different aspects of the process and
there was concern over the timeline, but we did not really decide
anything (others please jump in as I may have missed some
important aspects). Markus announced he wanted to continue in
the role; I announced I was going to run. Then the CSG proposal
for a process was circulated on Thurs AM. There seemed to be
general agreement that the CSG proposal was not ideal. <br>
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<p>I think the key immediate thing is us agreeing a process and
timeline for nominations and getting that announced, so at least
the initial stages of the process are underway.</p>
<p>Matthew<br>
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<div dir="auto">We got this note from Greg to resume the
discussion on board seat election. </div>
<div dir="auto">First thing, is it possible to get a summary
of what or not agreed on iceland on that regard from those
who attended intersessional?</div>
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<div dir="auto">We also need to outline what are our
non-negotiable points such as having vote, NCA participation
and so on. </div>
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<div dir="auto">I think tgat the CSG proposal from last week
is far from our expectations.</div>
<div dir="auto">There is also proposal to have a call. We can
have it by end of this week but we do need to be ready.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Best,</div>
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Date: Feb 20, 2017 2:13 PM<br>
Subject: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">We probably
need a different mailing list to finish working on the
Board Seat selection process, and a small group to do
it, but I'll start here, since I think this is the
only active mailing list with both sides of the NCPH
on it.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">We basically
have no time to work this out, and we've already
started the process without knowing what it is
exactly, since we have now received nominations.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">In addition to
the adaptation of the CPH procedures previously
circulated, I'm also attaching the following for
consideration:</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">1. Some
bullet-points from an exchange between CSG and NCSG
representatives outlining a potential draft process.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">2. The latest
version of the ICANN Staff Memo with a revised draft
timeline and some relevant excerpts from Bylaws and
GNSO Procedures.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">3. A further
excerpt from the Bylaws, with Section 11.3(f), which
covers the selection process for Seats 13-14 (to the
extent that is covered in the Bylaws), and Section
11.3(h), which is referred to in Section 11.3(f).</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">A few thoughts
and comments:</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">A. We only
have 10 1/2 weeks to both develop and go through a
process that is contemplated to take 21 weeks (just to
go through). Talk about building the airplane in the
air.</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">B. At the
Intersessional, we discussed possible adjustments to
the timeline, but did not come to any decisions. It's
not clear to me whether Staff is preparing a further
revised draft. I'll ask.</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">C. If any of
our groups have not already done so, we should put out
a call for any other nominations ASAP (though it would
be nice to know the end of the nomination period).</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">D. Without
making any judgments, the CPH process and the NCPH
bullet-points are significantly different when it
comes to voting.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">E. We should
figure out how to get this process agreed as quickly
as possible. Given the unusual circumstances, we
don't need to use this process as precedent for any
future process. We just need to get through this
selection. One approach is for NCSG to respond to the
draft sent at the end of the Intersessional. However,
given the gap between that and the bullet-points, it
might just be better to arrange a call/Adobe Connect
session ASAP to move the ball forward.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks for
reading,</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">P.S. It's not
all that important how we got here, but nonetheless,
it should be noted that the GNSO Procedures were never
updated from 2012, when the Bylaws deadline for naming
the Director was changed from one month to two months
(briefly) and then six months prior to being seated.
(The GNSO Procedures will need to be updated in any
event, since the Bylaws references are now obsolete.))
The draft bullet-points repeated this error.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"
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are doing this with very little time</div>
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Date: Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 5:28 AM<br>
Subject: Discussion Draft of Interim Board Selection
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The CSG
prepared a "discussion draft" of a proposed
interim Board Selection Process based closely on
the Final Process adopted by the Contracted
Parties House. Clean and marked drafts are
attached, showing changes from the CPH document.</div>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">A Google
Docs version can be found here, where any
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hope to use this for the current 2017 Board Seat
process and then revisit afterward before making
it a permanent rather than "interim" process.</div>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">This has
not been reviewed by the membership of the IPC, BC
and ISPCP, but we wanted to start the discussion
on this basis, given the short amount of time we
have for this year.</div>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">We look
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks!</div>
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