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    <p>Thanks Rafik</p>
    <p>Not sure much was agreed except that we need to deal with it and
      we are running out of time.</p>
    <p>First we had the timeline from Greg before the meeting, which was
      not really discussed further.  Then we had some general discussion
      about the need to do something on the Board selection process. 
      People voiced their views on different aspects of the process and
      there was concern over the timeline, but we did not really decide
      anything (others please jump in as I may have missed some
      important aspects).   Markus announced he wanted to continue in
      the role; I announced I was going to run.  Then the CSG proposal
      for a process was circulated on Thurs AM.  There seemed to be
      general agreement that the CSG proposal was not ideal. <br>
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    <p>I think the key immediate thing is us agreeing a process and
      timeline for nominations and getting that announced, so at least
      the initial stages of the process are underway.</p>
    <p>Matthew<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 20/02/2017 10:56, Rafik Dammak
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        <div>Hi everyone,
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          <div dir="auto">We got this note from Greg to resume the
            discussion on board seat election. </div>
          <div dir="auto">First thing, is it possible to get a summary
            of what or not agreed on iceland on that regard from those
            who attended intersessional?</div>
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          <div dir="auto">We also need to outline what are our
            non-negotiable points such as having vote, NCA participation
            and so on. </div>
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          <div dir="auto">I think tgat the CSG proposal from last week
            is far from our expectations.</div>
          <div dir="auto">There is also proposal to have a call. We can
            have it by end of this week but we do need to be ready.</div>
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          <div dir="auto">Best,</div>
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          <div dir="auto">Rafik </div>
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            From: "Greg Shatan" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a>><br>
            Date: Feb 20, 2017 2:13 PM<br>
            Subject: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection
            Process<br>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">We probably
                  need a different mailing list to finish working on the
                  Board Seat selection process, and a small group to do
                  it, but I'll start here, since I think this is the
                  only active mailing list with both sides of the NCPH
                  on it.</div>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">We basically
                  have no time to work this out, and we've already
                  started the process without knowing what it is
                  exactly, since we have now received nominations.</div>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">In addition to
                  the adaptation of the CPH procedures previously
                  circulated, I'm also attaching the following for
                  consideration:</div>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">1.  Some
                  bullet-points from an exchange between CSG and NCSG
                  representatives outlining a potential draft process.</div>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">2.  The latest
                  version of the ICANN Staff Memo with a revised draft
                  timeline and some relevant excerpts from Bylaws and
                  GNSO Procedures.</div>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">3.  A further
                  excerpt from the Bylaws, with Section 11.3(f), which
                  covers the selection process for Seats 13-14 (to the
                  extent that is covered in the Bylaws), and Section
                  11.3(h), which is referred to in Section 11.3(f).</div>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">A few thoughts
                  and comments:</div>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">A.  We only
                  have 10 1/2 weeks to both develop and go through a
                  process that is contemplated to take 21 weeks (just to
                  go through).  Talk about building the airplane in the
                  air.</div>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">B.  At the
                  Intersessional, we discussed possible adjustments to
                  the timeline, but did not come to any decisions.  It's
                  not clear to me whether Staff is preparing a further
                  revised draft.  I'll ask.</div>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">C.  If any of
                  our groups have not already done so, we should put out
                  a call for any other nominations ASAP (though it would
                  be nice to know the end of the nomination period).</div>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">D.  Without
                  making any judgments, the CPH process and the NCPH
                  bullet-points are significantly different when it
                  comes to voting.</div>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">E.  We should
                  figure out how to get this process agreed as quickly
                  as possible.  Given the unusual circumstances, we
                  don't need to use this process as precedent for any
                  future process.  We just need to get through this
                  selection.  One approach is for NCSG to respond to the
                  draft sent at the end of the Intersessional.  However,
                  given the gap between that and the bullet-points, it
                  might just be better to arrange a call/Adobe Connect
                  session ASAP to move the ball forward.</div>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks for
                  reading,</div>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg</div>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">P.S.  It's not
                  all that important how we got here, but nonetheless,
                  it should be noted that the GNSO Procedures were never
                  updated from 2012, when the Bylaws deadline for naming
                  the Director was changed from one month to two months
                  (briefly) and then six months prior to being seated.
                   (The GNSO Procedures will need to be updated in any
                  event, since the Bylaws references are now obsolete.))
                   The draft bullet-points repeated this error.</div>
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                  style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">B.  Since we
                  are doing this with very little time</div>
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                  Date: Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 5:28 AM<br>
                  Subject: Discussion Draft of Interim Board Selection
                  Process<br>
                  To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org"
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                    <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The CSG
                      prepared a "discussion draft" of a proposed
                      interim Board Selection Process based closely on
                      the Final Process adopted by the Contracted
                      Parties House.  Clean and marked drafts are
                      attached, showing changes from the CPH document.</div>
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                    <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">A Google
                      Docs version can be found here, where any
                      suggested changes can be added in "suggest" mode
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                    <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">We would
                      hope to use this for the current 2017 Board Seat
                      process and then revisit afterward before making
                      it a permanent rather than "interim" process.</div>
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                    <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">This has
                      not been reviewed by the membership of the IPC, BC
                      and ISPCP, but we wanted to start the discussion
                      on this basis, given the short amount of time we
                      have for this year.</div>
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                    <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">We look
                      forward to your thoughts.</div>
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                    <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks!</div>
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                    <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Greg (on
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