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Dear Anne and Susan,



I know you have this covered, but if I could offer my own view as one of th=
e former co-chairs of SubPro.  I have not spoken with Cheryl about this as =
the other co-chair, but I would hope she would support this.  I would suppo=
rt forwarding this on to the Council to assist in its review.



During the discussions within the Subsequent Procedures PDP, the topic of =
=93fraudulent and deceptive practices=94 was discussed on numerous occasion=
s, especially earlier on during the work track phases (prior to the prelimi=
nary report).  The driving force behind those discussions was a decision is=
sued in the very first PICDRP dispute in 2017 regarding the .feedback regis=
try.


The .feedback PICDRP report (found here&lt;https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.=
outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icann.org%2Fen%2Fsystem%2Ffiles%2Ffile=
s%2Ffeedback-picdrp-panel-report-14mar17-en.pdf&amp;data=3D05%7C02%7Csusan.payn=
e%40comlaude.com%7Cafe90a852170423d72cb08dd881eabfe%7C442149eed2004029b9b18=
f029e916b85%7C0%7C0%7C638816387512634054%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU=
1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyf=
Q%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=3D8lqG7kEiosf%2BPg2%2FmxUwTEyuNOm%2BOxmRSntilzMf=
saw%3D&amp;reserved=3D0&gt;) was read by the working group and discussed at length=
.  More specifically, the Panel found that the .feedback registry was engag=
ed in fraudulent and/or deceptive practices, but neither Specification 11 n=
or the registry agreement itself contained a commitment, representation or =
covenant, that the registry would not engage in fraudulent or deceptive pra=
ctices.   See Exhibit A to the PICDRP report.



The Working Group believed that this was an unjust result and that the next=
 registry agreement must fix this issue so that consumers are not harmed in=
 the future when a registry commits a fraudulent or deceptive action.  Ther=
efore it unanimously agreed to recommendation 36.4 which states:



Recommendation 36.4 =93CANN must add a contractual provision stating that t=
he registry operator will not engage in fraudulent or deceptive practices. =
In the event that ICANN receives an order from a court that a registry has =
engaged in fraudulent or deceptive practices, ICANN may issue a notice of b=
reach for such practices and allow the registry to cure such breach in acco=
rdance with the Registry Agreement. Further, in the event that there is a c=
redible allegation by any third party of fraudulent or deceptive practices,=
 other than as set forth in above, ICANN may, at its discretion, either com=
mence dispute resolution actions under the Registry Agreement (Currently Ar=
ticle 5 of the Registry Agreement), or appoint a panel under the PICDRP. Fo=
r the purposes of a credible claim of fraudulent or deceptive practices the=
 reporter (as defined by the PICDRP) must only specifically state the groun=
ds of the alleged non-compliance, but not that it personally has been harme=
d as a result of the registry operator=92s act or omission.=94



It is also worth noting that neither ICANN staff nor the ICANN Board raised=
 any issues about this recommendation in their comments to the Initial Repo=
rt or to the Proposed Final Draft Report, both of which contained this reco=
mmendation.  In addition, the ICANN Board of Directors adopted this recomme=
ndation without any modification.



ICANN now states that they believe they have accurately captured the intent=
 of the Recommendation 36.4.  This could not be further from the truth.



*       First, ICANN is refusing to put a commitment in the Registry Agreem=
ent whereby the registry agrees to not engage in fraudulent or deceptive pr=
actices.  Rather, it proposes to hide that commitment in a termination prov=
ision.
*       Second, the recommendation is clear that the promise to not engage =
in fraud be included in the PICDRP, which means obviously that it must be a=
 Public Interest Commitment made by the registry.  Otherwise it could not b=
e included in the PICDRP.  ICANN has refused to create such a PIC.
*       Third, in its proposed language in the termination section, ICANN s=
tates that it will only do so if such fraud is found by a court, a consumer=
 protection authority, or what it deems to be a suitable arbitration.  ICAN=
N has refused to have it be subject to the PICDRP (where a third party=85.n=
ot ICANN=85would decide if there was fraud).
*       Fourth, ICANN argues that we should not put ICANN in a position to =
determine fraud.  We actually agree with this which is why SubPro recommend=
ed it be in a PICDRP, so that ICANN could choose to have a third party make=
 that determination.  ICANN has refused.



What does this mean?  It means that if the .feedback situation came up agai=
n, we would likely have the same unjust result.  A registry would be found =
to have engaged in fraud by an independent panel, but ICANN and the panel w=
ould be powerless to find the registry in breach of its Registry Agreement.=
  Like in .feedback, consumers were harmed, and ICANN stood by powerless to=
 address.  Under ICANN=92s proposed language it would still be as powerless=
.



It is also worth noting that the reason SubPro chose to go with the languag=
e it went with in the recommendation was because that language actually app=
ears in another section of the Registry Agreement.  More specifically, ICAN=
N has imposed an obligation for registries to require registrars to have a =
registrant agreement that prohibits =85 fraudulent and deceptive practice. =
 The irony here is that ICANN is saying that registries/registrars should p=
olice for this, but ICANN org should not.  Apparently, when it concerns ICA=
NN having to do some enforcement, it will not claiming they are not law enf=
orcement and do not have the ability to do that type of enforcement.  But a=
pparently ICANN believes that registries and registrars do have that abilit=
y.



To reiterate the SubPro Recommendation:

1.      ICANN must include a provision in the Registry Agreement stating th=
at the registry operator will not engage in fraudulent or deceptive practic=
es. =96 ICANN has not done this.
2.      If ICANN receives a Court Order that the registry has engaged in fr=
aud, it may issue a notice of breach =96 ICANN has done this.
3.      Further, in the event that there is a credible allegation by any th=
ird party of fraudulent or deceptive practices, other than as set forth in =
above, ICANN may, at its discretion, either commence dispute resolution act=
ions under the Registry Agreement (Currently Article 5 of the Registry Agre=
ement), or appoint a panel under the PICDRP.  ICANN has NOT done this.



Nothing requires ICANN to police for fraud.  Rather, if there is a credible=
 claim, ICANN can send it to a PICDRP for the third party to make the deter=
mination OR it can choose to Arbitrate the issue directly under Article 5 o=
f the Registry Agreement.



Sincerely,

Jeff







From: Karla Hakansson via SubPro-IRT &lt;subpro-irt@icann.org&lt;mailto:subpro-ir=
t@icann.org&gt;&gt;
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2025 1:12 PM
To: Anne ICANN &lt;anneicanngnso@gmail.com&lt;mailto:anneicanngnso@gmail.com&gt;&gt;; J=
ared Erwin via SubPro-IRT &lt;subpro-irt@icann.org&lt;mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org=
&gt;&gt;
Cc: subpro-irt@icann.org&lt;mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org&gt;
Subject: [SubPro-IRT] Re: [Ext] Base RA redline



Hi Anne,



You can find the NxR Base RA redline in the working documents under Topic 3=
6: Base RA on the SubPro IRT wiki: file:///Users/karla.hakansson/Downloads/=
REDLINE%20-%20Next%20Round%20Base%20RA%20Preliminary%20Working%20Draft_1%20=
November%202024%20(7).pdf



Still TBD on the date when we post the RA for public comment. We are shooti=
ng for the end of May. The public comment period will be the standard 40 da=
ys.



Best,

Karla



From: Anne ICANN &lt;anneicanngnso@gmail.com&lt;mailto:anneicanngnso@gmail.com&gt;&gt;
Date: Tuesday, April 29, 2025 at 15:52
To: Karla Hakansson &lt;karla.hakansson@icann.org&lt;mailto:karla.hakansson@icann=
.org&gt;&gt;, Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT &lt;subpro-irt@icann.org&lt;mailto:subpro-irt@=
icann.org&gt;&gt;
Subject: [Ext] Base RA redline



Hi Karla,

Do we currently have a link to the entire Base RA redline as previously req=
uested?



Will the Base RA language be going out for public comment at the same time =
as the draft AGB in its entirety?  How long with the public comment period =
be?



Thank you,

Anne



Anne Aikman-Scalese

GNSO Councilor

NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2026

anneicanngnso@gmail.com&lt;mailto:anneicanngnso@gmail.com&gt;


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&lt;div class=3D&quot;WordSection1&quot;&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;Dear Anne and Susan=
,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;I know you have thi=
s covered, but if I could offer my own view as one of the former co-chairs =
of SubPro.&nbsp; I have not spoken with Cheryl about this as the other co-c=
hair, but I would hope she would support
 this.&nbsp; I would support forwarding this on to the Council to assist in=
 its review.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;During the discussi=
ons within the Subsequent Procedures PDP, the topic of =93fraudulent and de=
ceptive practices=94 was discussed on numerous occasions, especially earlie=
r on during the work track phases (prior
 to the preliminary report).&nbsp; The driving force behind those discussio=
ns was a decision issued in the very first PICDRP dispute in 2017 regarding=
 the .feedback registry.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
The .feedback PICDRP report (&lt;a href=3D&quot;https://gbr01.safelinks.protection.=
outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icann.org%2Fen%2Fsystem%2Ffiles%2Ffile=
s%2Ffeedback-picdrp-panel-report-14mar17-en.pdf&amp;data=3D05%7C02%7Csusan.=
payne%40comlaude.com%7Cafe90a852170423d72cb08dd881eabfe%7C442149eed2004029b=
9b18f029e916b85%7C0%7C0%7C638816387512634054%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbX=
B0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUI=
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SntilzMfsaw%3D&amp;reserved=3D0&quot; originalsrc=3D&quot;https://www.icann.org/en/sy=
stem/files/files/feedback-picdrp-panel-report-14mar17-en.pdf&quot;&gt;found
 here&lt;/a&gt;) was read by the working group and discussed at length.&nbsp; Mor=
e specifically, the Panel found that the .feedback registry was engaged in =
fraudulent and/or deceptive practices, but neither Specification 11 nor the=
 registry agreement itself contained
 a commitment, representation or covenant, that the registry would not enga=
ge in fraudulent or deceptive practices.&nbsp;&nbsp; See Exhibit A to the P=
ICDRP report.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;The Working Group b=
elieved that this was an unjust result and that the next registry agreement=
 must fix this issue so that consumers are not harmed in the future when a =
registry commits a fraudulent or deceptive
 action.&nbsp; Therefore it unanimously agreed to recommendation 36.4 which=
 states:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;Recommendation 3=
6.4 &lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/u&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;=93CANN must add a contractual provisi=
on stating that the registry operator will not engage in fraudulent or dece=
ptive practices. In the event that ICANN receives an order from a court tha=
t a registry has engaged in fraudulent
 or deceptive practices, ICANN may issue a notice of breach for such practi=
ces and allow the registry to cure such breach in accordance with the Regis=
try Agreement. Further, in the event that there is a credible allegation by=
 any third party of fraudulent or
 deceptive practices, other than as set forth in above, ICANN may, at its d=
iscretion, either commence dispute resolution actions under the Registry Ag=
reement (Currently Article 5 of the Registry Agreement), or appoint a panel=
 under the PICDRP. For the purposes
 of a credible claim of fraudulent or deceptive practices the reporter (as =
defined by the PICDRP) must only specifically state the grounds of the alle=
ged non-compliance, but not that it personally has been harmed as a result =
of the registry operator=92s act or
 omission.=94&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;It is also worth no=
ting that neither ICANN staff nor the ICANN Board raised any issues about t=
his recommendation in their comments to the Initial Report or to the Propos=
ed Final Draft Report, both of which
 contained this recommendation.&nbsp; In addition, the ICANN Board of Direc=
tors adopted this recommendation without any modification.&nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;ICANN now states th=
at they believe they have accurately captured the intent of the Recommendat=
ion 36.4.&nbsp; This could not be further from the truth.&nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul style=3D&quot;margin-top:0in&quot; type=3D&quot;disc&quot;&gt;
&lt;li class=3D&quot;MsoListParagraph&quot; style=3D&quot;margin-left:0in&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;fon=
t-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;First, ICANN is refusing to put a commitment in the Registry=
 Agreement whereby the registry agrees to not engage in fraudulent or decep=
tive practices.&nbsp; Rather, it proposes to
 hide that commitment in a termination provision.&nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li cla=
ss=3D&quot;MsoListParagraph&quot; style=3D&quot;margin-left:0in&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:=
11.0pt&quot;&gt;Second, the recommendation is clear that the promise to not engage =
in fraud be included in the PICDRP, which means obviously that it must be a=
 Public Interest Commitment made
 by the registry.&nbsp; Otherwise it could not be included in the PICDRP.&amp;n=
bsp; ICANN has refused to create such a PIC.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class=3D&quot;MsoLis=
tParagraph&quot; style=3D&quot;margin-left:0in&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;Thir=
d, in its proposed language in the termination section, ICANN states that i=
t will only do so if such fraud is found by a court, a consumer protection =
authority, or what
 it deems to be a suitable arbitration.&nbsp; ICANN has refused to have it =
be subject to the PICDRP (where a third party=85.not ICANN=85would decide i=
f there was fraud).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class=3D&quot;MsoListParagraph&quot; style=3D&quot;marg=
in-left:0in&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;Fourth, ICANN argues that we =
should not put ICANN in a position to determine fraud.&nbsp; We actually ag=
ree with this which is why SubPro recommended it be in a PICDRP, so that IC=
ANN
 could choose to have a third party make that determination.&nbsp; ICANN ha=
s refused.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;What does this mean=
?&nbsp; It means that if the .feedback situation came up again, we would li=
kely have the same unjust result.&nbsp; A registry would be found to have e=
ngaged in fraud by an independent panel, but ICANN
 and the panel would be powerless to find the registry in breach of its Reg=
istry Agreement.&nbsp; Like in .feedback, consumers were harmed, and ICANN =
stood by powerless to address.&nbsp; Under ICANN=92s proposed language it w=
ould still be as powerless.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;It is also worth no=
ting that the reason SubPro chose to go with the language it went with in t=
he recommendation was because that language actually appears in another sec=
tion of the Registry Agreement.&nbsp; More
 specifically, ICANN has imposed an obligation for registries to require re=
gistrars to have a registrant agreement that prohibits =85 fraudulent and d=
eceptive practice.&nbsp; The irony here is that ICANN is saying that regist=
ries/registrars should police for this,
 but ICANN org should not.&nbsp; Apparently, when it concerns ICANN having =
to do some enforcement, it will not claiming they are not law enforcement a=
nd do not have the ability to do that type of enforcement.&nbsp; But appare=
ntly ICANN believes that registries and registrars
 do have that ability.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;To reiterate the Su=
bPro Recommendation:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ol style=3D&quot;margin-top:0in&quot; start=3D&quot;1&quot; type=3D&quot;1&quot;&gt;
&lt;li class=3D&quot;MsoListParagraph&quot; style=3D&quot;color:red;margin-left:0in&quot;&gt;&lt;span st=
yle=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt;color:windowtext&quot;&gt;ICANN must include a provision in=
 the Registry Agreement stating that the registry operator will not engage =
in fraudulent or deceptive practices.
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;=96 ICANN has not done this.&lt;/span&gt;=
&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class=3D&quot;MsoListParagraph&quot; style=3D&quot;margin-left:0in&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=
=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;If ICANN receives a Court Order that the registry has=
 engaged in fraud, it may issue a notice of breach
&lt;span style=3D&quot;color:#4ea72e&quot;&gt;=96 ICANN has done this&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;l=
i class=3D&quot;MsoListParagraph&quot; style=3D&quot;margin-left:0in&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-=
size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;Further, in the event that there is a credible allegation by a=
ny third party of fraudulent or deceptive practices, other than as set fort=
h in above, ICANN may, at its discretion,
 either commence dispute resolution actions under the Registry Agreement (C=
urrently Article 5 of the Registry Agreement), or appoint a panel under the=
 PICDRP. &nbsp;&lt;span style=3D&quot;color:red&quot;&gt;ICANN has NOT done this&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/s=
pan&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoListParagraph&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/span=
&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;Nothing requires IC=
ANN to police for fraud.&nbsp; Rather, if there is a credible claim, ICANN =
can send it to a PICDRP for the third party to make the determination OR it=
 can choose to Arbitrate the issue directly
 under Article 5 of the Registry Agreement.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;Sincerely,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Jeff&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;color:black&quot;&gt;&lt;img border=3D&quot;0&quot; width=
=3D&quot;364&quot; height=3D&quot;121&quot; style=3D&quot;width:3.7916in;height:1.2583in&quot; id=3D&quot;Pict=
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=3D&quot;mso-ligatures:standardcontextual&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
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&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&amp;quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif&quot;&gt;From:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif&quot;&gt; Karla Hakansson via SubPro-IRT=
 &lt;&lt;a href=3D&quot;mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org&quot;&gt;subpro-irt@icann.org&lt;/a&gt;&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Sent:&lt;/b&gt; Wednesday, April 30, 2025 1:12 PM&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;To:&lt;/b&gt; Anne ICANN &lt;&lt;a href=3D&quot;mailto:anneicanngnso@gmail.com&quot;&gt;anneic=
anngnso@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;&gt;; Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT &lt;&lt;a href=3D&quot;mailto=
:subpro-irt@icann.org&quot;&gt;subpro-irt@icann.org&lt;/a&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Cc:&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=3D&quot;mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org&quot;&gt;subpro-irt@icann.org&lt;/a&gt;=
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Subject:&lt;/b&gt; [SubPro-IRT] Re: [Ext] Base RA redline&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;Hi Anne, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p=
&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;You can find the Nx=
R Base RA redline in the working documents under Topic 36: Base RA on the S=
ubPro IRT wiki:
&lt;a href=3D&quot;file:///Users/karla.hakansson/Downloads/REDLINE%20-%20Next%20Rou=
nd%20Base%20RA%20Preliminary%20Working%20Draft_1%20November%202024%20(7).pd=
f&quot;&gt;
file:///Users/karla.hakansson/Downloads/REDLINE%20-%20Next%20Round%20Base%2=
0RA%20Preliminary%20Working%20Draft_1%20November%202024%20(7).pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span=
&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;Still TBD on the da=
te when we post the RA for public comment. We are shooting for the end of M=
ay. The public comment period will be the standard 40 days.
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;Best, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;Karla&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-size:11.0pt&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sa=
ns-serif;color:black&quot;&gt;From:
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style=3D&quot;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:=
black&quot;&gt;Anne ICANN &lt;&lt;a href=3D&quot;mailto:anneicanngnso@gmail.com&quot;&gt;anneicanng=
nso@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Date: &lt;/b&gt;Tuesday, April 29, 2025 at 15:52&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;To: &lt;/b&gt;Karla Hakansson &lt;&lt;a href=3D&quot;mailto:karla.hakansson@icann.org&quot;=
&gt;karla.hakansson@icann.org&lt;/a&gt;&gt;, Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT &lt;&lt;a href=
=3D&quot;mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org&quot;&gt;subpro-irt@icann.org&lt;/a&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Subject: &lt;/b&gt;[Ext] Base RA redline&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Hi Karla,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Do we currently have a link to the entire Base RA re=
dline as previously requested?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Will the Base RA language be going out for public co=
mment at the same time as the draft AGB in its entirety?&nbsp; How long wit=
h the public comment period be?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Thank you,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Anne&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;Anne Aikman-Scalese&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;GNSO Councilor &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2026&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;p class=3D&quot;MsoNormal&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=3D&quot;mailto:anneicanngnso@gmail.com&quot; target=3D=
&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;anneicanngnso@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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