<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi everyone,</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding the strategy on how to approach this problem, are we nonetheless appointing volunteers while we wait for the GNSO council to act or is it better to refuse to nominate someone for now?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cordially,</div><div><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:garamond,times new roman,serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"><b>Pedro de Perdigão Lana</b><br></font></font></span><div><span style="font-family:garamond,times new roman,serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"><a href="https://www.nic.br/" target="_blank">Lawyer</a>, </font></font></span><span style="font-family:garamond,times new roman,serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:garamond,times new roman,serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:garamond,times new roman,serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"><a href="https://www.gedai.com.br/" target="_blank">GEDAI/UFPR</a> Researcher</font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></div><div><span style="font-family:garamond,times new roman,serif"><font size="1"><font size="2">PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)</font></font></span><span style="font-family:garamond,times new roman,serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:garamond,times new roman,serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"> </font></font></span></font></font></span></div><div><span style="font-family:garamond,times new roman,serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:garamond,times new roman,serif"></span></font></font></span></div><div><span style="font-family:garamond,times new roman,serif"><font size="1"><font size="2">Board Member @ <a href="https://br.creativecommons.net/" target="_blank">CC Brasil</a>, </font></font></span><span style="font-family:garamond,times new roman,serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:garamond,times new roman,serif"><font size="1"><font size="2"><a href="https://isoc.org.br/" target="_blank">ISOC BR</a></font></font></span> and <a href="https://ioda.org.br/" target="_blank">IODA</a></font></font></span></div><div><span style="font-family:garamond,times new roman,serif"></span></div><div><font size="1"><span style="font-family:garamond,times new roman,serif">This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s). If received by mistake, please reply informing it.</span></font></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Em seg., 27 de mai. de 2024 às 11:35, Poncelet Ileleji <<a href="mailto:pileleji@jokkolabs.co">pileleji@jokkolabs.co</a>> escreveu:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">+1 kathy +1 Farzi, I can't agree more <br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><b><font face="monospace">Poncelet O. Ileleji<br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="monospace">Jokkolabs Banjul - Lead / CEO<br></font></b></div><div><b><font face="monospace">Sait Matty Road, Bakau, Adjacent to Swedish Consulate</font></b></div><div><b><font face="monospace">KMC, The Gambia</font></b></div><div><b><font face="monospace">P O Box 4496 Bakau,KMC, The Gambia</font></b></div><div><b><font face="monospace">Skype: pons_utd</font></b></div><div><b><font face="monospace">Tel Direct Office: +220 4495115</font></b></div><div><b><font face="monospace">Tel Mobile/Whatsapp: +220 9912508<br></font></b></div><b><font face="monospace">LinkedIn: Jokkolabs Banjul<br></font></b><div><b><font face="monospace">Facebook: Jokkolabs Banjul</font></b></div><div><b><font face="monospace">Twitter: @jBanjul</font></b></div><div><b><font face="monospace"><br></font></b></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 1:46 PM Kathy Kleiman <kathy@dnrc.tech> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<p> +1 to Farzi, and an Implementation Review Team (run by ICANN
Staff) is hardly the place to state that the law has gone in a
completely different direction since the original Policy was
negotiated. No one on the ICANN Board or Staff feels empowered
to "stop this train" although it is eight years old and badly out
of date.</p>
<p><b>That power rests in the GNSO Council. <i>Can we (NCSG),
through our Councilors, call for a legal review of the
proposed PPSAI for problems (if any) with its underlying legal
foundation in light of the adoption of GDPR and over half the
countries of the world now following the European
"comprehensive right of privacy"?</i> </b> <br>
</p>
<p>Best and asking all of our current Councilors (past and future
ones too), <br>
</p>
<p>Kathy<br>
</p>
<div>On 5/27/2024 9:26 AM, farzaneh badii
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hi Tomslin,</div>
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<div dir="auto">This is a bit odd. Didn’t we discuss that most of
those policy recommendations were outdated and could not be
implemented? Are they hoping that by doing the IRT we can
undertake feasibility for the recommendations? </div>
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<div dir="auto">This is why I did suggest considering time limits
for implementing policies. You can’t come up with a policy and
then want to enforce it 8 years later! Especially in the
technology space, that is not possible. </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div dir="auto">Best regards </div>
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<div><font style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)" face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 27, 2024 at
5:53 AM Tomslin Samme-Nlar <<a href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com" target="_blank">mesumbeslin@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Dear members, </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">There is a request from Org for SG/Cs to
appoint a representative and an alternate to the PPSAI
IRT. We (NCSG) had concerns with the IRT going ahead
but as you can see, Org is still going ahead with it. </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div>NCSG is seeking a representative and an alternate.
Please read below for details of the role of the
representative and on what the IRT will be doing.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Send your EOI to me (<a href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com" target="_blank">mesumbeslin@gmail.com</a>)
copying Julf (<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank">julf@julf.com</a>) and
Andrea (<a href="mailto:andrea.glandon@icann.org" target="_blank">andrea.glandon@icann.org</a>)
no later than Friday May 31st 2023 for the policy
committee's review.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div>Warmly, <br>
Tomslin</div>
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-------- Forwarded Message --------<br>
Subject: [GNSO-SG-C-Leadership] Appointment of
representative and <br>
alternate to the PPSAI IRT<br>
Date: Tue, 21 May 2024 19:59:02 +0000<br>
From: Dennis Chang via GNSO-SG-C-Leadership <br>
<<a href="mailto:gnso-sg-c-leadership@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-sg-c-leadership@icann.org</a>><br>
Reply-To: Dennis Chang <<a href="mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">dennis.chang@icann.org</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:gnso-sg-c-leadership@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-sg-c-leadership@icann.org</a>
<<a href="mailto:gnso-sg-c-leadership@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">gnso-sg-c-leadership@icann.org</a>><br>
CC: Leon Grundmann <<a href="mailto:leon.grundmann@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">leon.grundmann@icann.org</a>><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Dear All,<br>
<br>
Following the publication of the Call for Volunteers <br>
<<a href="https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-seeks-volunteers-for-the-ppsai-implementation-review-team-20-05-2024-en" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-seeks-volunteers-for-the-ppsai-implementation-review-team-20-05-2024-en</a>>,
<br>
the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and
Numbers (ICANN) <br>
organization (org) is pleased to invite you to
nominate a representative <br>
and an alternate to the Proxy & Privacy Services
(PPSAI) policy <br>
Implementation Review Team (IRT).<br>
<br>
The implementation process is an ICANN org-driven
exercise. ICANN org <br>
plans to employ the “Open + Representative Model”
piloted on the <br>
Subsequent Procedures IRT and based on the GNSO’s PDP
3.0 model <br>
<<a href="https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/pdp-3-2-working-group-models-10feb20-en.pdf.pdf" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/pdp-3-2-working-group-models-10feb20-en.pdf.pdf</a>>.
<br>
The goal is to provide a structure that allows for
efficient resolution <br>
of issues that may occur.<br>
<br>
We kindly ask that your group nominate up to one
representative and up <br>
to one alternate to participate in the IRT. Please
note, we are asking <br>
each of ICANN’s supporting organizations, advisory
committees, <br>
stakeholder groups and constituencies to nominate up
to one <br>
representative and one alternate.<br>
<br>
Putting forward a representative and alternate is
optional; all members <br>
of the GNSO Group are welcome to join the IRT as
participants. In fact, <br>
we urge anyone who is interested in being selected as
a representative <br>
to join the IRT as a participant first (call for
volunteers <br>
<<a href="https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-seeks-volunteers-for-the-ppsai-implementation-review-team-20-05-2024-en" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-seeks-volunteers-for-the-ppsai-implementation-review-team-20-05-2024-en</a>>).
<br>
As you will see below, the roles of participants and
representatives are <br>
nearly identical, with the representatives’ main
function being that of <br>
an information-bridge to their community groups.<br>
<br>
ICANN org plans to host the first IRT call during the
ICANN80 public <br>
meeting in June 2024. We do not require the nominees
for the first <br>
meeting, but request that you conclude the nomination
process and inform <br>
us of the nominees as soon as feasible.<br>
<br>
Why Have Representatives?<br>
<br>
While participants always speak in their own personal
capacity, <br>
representatives are expected to speak on behalf of
their constituency, <br>
stakeholder group, supporting organization, or
advisory committee. <br>
Therefore, a key part of the representative’s role
will be to engage <br>
actively and consistently with their colleagues to
ensure they can <br>
convey their group’s viewpoints to the IRT. Please
note, that this will <br>
require an efficient process for representatives to
inform and receive <br>
input from their respective groups. To put this into
place will be the <br>
responsibility of each representative.<br>
<br>
In addition, when determining the level of consensus
in the circumstance <br>
described in Section V.E. of the IRT Principles &
Guidelines <br>
<<a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/irt-principles-guidelines-23aug16-en.pdf" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/irt-principles-guidelines-23aug16-en.pdf</a>>,
<br>
the GNSO Liaison, in the Open + Representative model,
shall take into <br>
consideration that members who are representatives are
expected to <br>
express the viewpoint of their respective community
groups and <br>
participants to express their own views. This does not
impact each <br>
member’s ability to raise any concern they may have,
nor does it absolve <br>
ICANN org or the GNSO Council liaison from
“exercis[ing] all reasonable <br>
efforts to resolve disagreements” within the IRT.<br>
<br>
More information can be found on this PPSAI IRT wiki
page <br>
<<a href="https://community.icann.org/x/lQDSEw" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/x/lQDSEw</a>>.
We are looking forward to <br>
getting the IRT underway and, please, do not hesitate
to reach out <br>
should you have any questions.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
<br>
Kind Regards,<br>
<br>
Dennis S. Chang<br>
<br>
GDD Programs Director<br>
<br>
Phone: +1 213 293 7889<br>
<br>
Sykpe: dennisSchang<br>
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Past President, Domain Name Rights Coalition</pre>
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