<div dir="auto"><div>Hi Stephanie and Kathy,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Comments noted and I have requested that an extension be granted on the Council mailing list. </div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Warmly, <br>Tomslin</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 6 May 2024, 09:37 Kathy Kleiman, <kathy@dnrc.tech> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

  
    
  
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    <p>Absolutely need more time. And before this goes to
      implementation, Council needs to stop and ask questions, including
      <i>how we can continue with the results of a PDP that predates
        dramatic changes in privacy and data protection laws around the
        world?  <br>
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    <p><b>This PDP result should first be sent by Council to ICANN
        Legal, and ICANN's Chief Privacy Officer, to analyze and help
        the GNSO understand what parts of the PDP are called into
        question (or rendered moot) by subsequent laws for large regions
        of the world, including the GDPR in 2018.  </b>Dozens of
      countries have followed the EU's example and passed comprehensive
      data protection laws in many regions of the world. <i>All after
        this PDP ended.</i><br>
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    <p><i>Can our Councilors lead the questions and redirection of this
        recommendation?  </i><b>This old policy is not ready for
        implementation, and it will be a huge argument and waste of
        time. </b>Because this was a PDP in the GNSO, it is up to
      Council to lead and redirect it - and gather more information and
      call for a legal analysis. Otherwise, 1000s more hours will be
      wasted.<br>
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    <p>Best, Kathy<br>
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    <div>On 5/5/2024 6:17 PM, Stephanie E Perrin
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      <p>In my opinion they have not allowed enough time for the
        threshold questions to be vetted by the stakeholder groups. 
        Please ask for more time.  Bear in mind that folks are being
        asked to review the final report of the PPSAI, which is hardly
        top of mind for folks after nearly a decade.<br>
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      <p>Stephanie Perrin<br>
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      <div>On 2024-05-05 4:38 pm, Tomslin
        Samme-Nlar wrote:<br>
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          <div>Hi folks,</div>
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          <div>During our April NCSG policy meeting, we discussed
            ICANN's plans to resurrect the Privacy and Proxy Services
            Accreditation Issues (PPSAI) Implementation Review Team
            (IRT) which was put on hold in 2019 due to overlapping
            issues with ongoing work in the GNSO’s Expedited Policy
            Development Process (EPDP) on the Temporary Specification,
            in light of the work to address the European Union General
            Data Protection Regulation (GDPR).</div>
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          <div>Here is a draft Call for Volunteers to restart work on
            the PPSAI recommendations and “threshold questions” ICANN
            plans to ask the reconstituted IRT before proceeding with
            formal implementation, which ICANN is seeking comments on by
            May 8th. My apologies for the short notice. </div>
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          <div>Let the list here know please if you identify any areas
            to comment and what the comments are ASAP for potential
            discussion here before the deadline and we can submit it.<br>
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              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded
                message ---------<br>
                From: <b class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">DiBiase,
                  Gregory via council</b> <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:council@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">council@icann.org</a>></span><br>
                Date: Fri, 3 May 2024 at 04:53<br>
                Subject: [council] FW: ICANN org PPSAI Org
                Implementation Leads & GNSO Council Liaisons to the
                PPSAI IRT | Thursday 04 April 2024<br>
                To: <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">council@gnso.icann.org</a>
                <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Dear Councilors,</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Attached is ICANN’s draft Call
                      for Volunteers to restart work on the PPSAI
                      recommendations.  Below are the “threshold
                      questions” ICANN plans to ask the reconstituted
                      IRT before proceeding with formal implementation. 
                      Please note that ICANN is requesting feedback from
                      any interested stakeholder groups by 8 May (see
                      below).  Leadership will add this topic as an AOB
                      in our May meeting to capture any comments or
                      concerns Councilors may have.</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">Threshold
                          Questions</span></b></p>
                    <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="1">
                      <li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black">Are
                        there any policy questions or items IRT already
                        wants to bring to Council for guidance?</li>
                    </ol>
                    <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="a" start="1">
                      <li style="color:black">Submit Recommendation Number
                        or Final Report text</li>
                    </ol>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span></p>
                    <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="2">
                      <li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black">Implementation
                        Model:  Accreditation Program or Alternative
                        Implementation</li>
                    </ol>
                    <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="a" start="1">
                      <li style="color:black;margin-bottom:12.0pt"> Can an
                        implementation model without a formal
                        accreditation program remain consistent with the
                        policy recommendations?</li>
                    </ol>
                    <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="1" start="3">
                      <li style="color:black;margin-left:0in"> Disclosure
                        Frameworks (Intellectual Property and Law
                        Enforcement)</li>
                    </ol>
                    <ol style="margin-top:0in" type="a" start="1">
                      <li style="color:black">Are there specific areas to
                        revisit under new law/policy (org to share
                        assessment, IRT to review)?</li>
                      <li style="color:black">Can these frameworks be
                        aligned with existing work on RDRS, Registration
                        Data Policy, and other existing procedures. and
                        remain consistent with the policy
                        recommendations?</li>
                    </ol>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Karen Lentz
                          <<a href="mailto:karen.lentz@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">karen.lentz@icann.org</a>>
                          <br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 1, 2024 4:10 PM<br>
                          <b>To:</b> DiBiase, Gregory <<a href="mailto:dibiase@amazon.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dibiase@amazon.com</a>>;
                          'Stephanie Perrin' <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>;
                          Paul McGrady <<a href="mailto:paul@elstermcgrady.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">paul@elstermcgrady.com</a>><br>
                          <b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>;
                          Terri Agnew <<a href="mailto:terri.agnew@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">terri.agnew@icann.org</a>>;
                          Dennis Chang <<a href="mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dennis.chang@icann.org</a>>;
                          Caitlin Tubergen <<a href="mailto:caitlin.tubergen@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">caitlin.tubergen@icann.org</a>>;
                          Feodora Hamza <<a href="mailto:feodora.hamza@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">feodora.hamza@icann.org</a>><br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> RE: [EXTERNAL] [Ext] RE:
                          Meeting Summary | ICANN org PPSAI Org
                          Implementation Leads & GNSO Council
                          Liaisons to the PPSAI IRT | Thursday 04 April
                          2024</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Hello all,</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Further to the below,
                        attached is the draft Call for Volunteers for
                        the PPSAI recommendations.  Please feel free to
                        share with the Council and/or any interested
                        stakeholder groups as you find appropriate. 
                        Please direct any feedback or questions to <a href="mailto:dennis.chang@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dennis.chang@icann.org</a>
                        – and would be most helpful by Wednesday, <b>8
                          May.  </b>If more time is needed let us know
                        -- we are aiming to have the IRT convened in
                        time to have the first meeting in Kigali.</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,</p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Karen</p>
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