<div dir="auto">The spot in the NomCom was NOT an elected position, nor was my spot in TPR working group which I am now quitting, effective immediately.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-Raoul </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 30 May 2023, 00:12 Johan Helsingius, <<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com">julf@julf.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Poncelet,<br>
<br>
I agree blaming each other is not very productive, but I do feel<br>
we need more objectively verifiable accountability from the<br>
people we elect to positions of responsibility, however unpleasant<br>
it might sometimes feel.<br>
<br>
Julf<br>
<br>
On 29/05/2023 22:33, Poncelet Ileleji wrote:<br>
> Hello Colleagues,<br>
> The overriding factual reality is uniting for the true cause, let's stay <br>
> on track, the disagreements will happen. However doing the needful for <br>
> the right progression that's what as a body we all after. Just my <br>
> 0.00001% contribution.<br>
> <br>
> Peace<br>
> <br>
> Poncelet<br>
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> On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 5:31 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos <br>
> <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> hey all,<br>
> <br>
> As much as I appreciate this discussion being held on the list, Im<br>
> failing to see the reason for yet another moment of our members<br>
> accusing people of not being fully engaged on the matter and so on.<br>
> This sort of exchange is not productive and we should focus on what<br>
> actually matters: rebalance of nomcom.<br>
> <br>
> @Judith Hellerstein <mailto:<a href="mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">judith@jhellerstein.com</a>>, I do also<br>
> appreciate you fishing for more information about the process and<br>
> trying to understand what was the real issue at the time. During<br>
> these debates our SG was also going through some issues regarding<br>
> membership, as well as a previous chair of NCUC had recently<br>
> resigned and we happened to have a significant group of new<br>
> leadership that was still trying to grasp the issues - as well as<br>
> our most recent engagement issues during the pandemic.<br>
> <br>
> Other than that, I wouldnt be so naive to frame the removal of<br>
> recommendation 10 as something thats directly connected to our<br>
> participation being in much small numbers. Even though the nomcom<br>
> rebalancing is something that would benefit GNSO as a whole since it<br>
> allows the group's membership to be fully portrayed at the nomcom<br>
> level - its not all constituencies and groups that envision this<br>
> issue as a true relevant one.<br>
> <br>
> But Id like to suggest we focus on what we have on the table now and<br>
> discuss further possibilities for chatting with the Board and<br>
> community about this issue.<br>
> <br>
> best,<br>
> B<br>
> <br>
> On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 2:06 PM Remmy Nweke <<a href="mailto:remmyn@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">remmyn@gmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:remmyn@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">remmyn@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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> Hi Johan and colleagues<br>
> It was not a private meeting.<br>
> I was on the review team with Raoul and we ensured it got to the<br>
> documentation prepared but unfortunately the larger NCSG family<br>
> did not see it as a priority.<br>
> EC meets without invites to some of us for an update if there is<br>
> need, especially since I left the Finance Committee, but<br>
> definitely it was not followed through during the comments<br>
> period. I remember alerting us on that but no cogent action<br>
> followed.<br>
> We actually aimed at rebalancing that could give us more slots<br>
> that could be distributed across NCSG, NCUC and NPOC, otherwise<br>
> we redefine how it rotates among the NCSG community.<br>
> At a time we met weekly until things got well underway.<br>
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> On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 5:36 PM Johan Helsingius <<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">julf@julf.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">julf@julf.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> On 29/05/2023 17:54, Judith Hellerstein wrote:<br>
> <br>
> > I am coming late to this discussion but it was not just<br>
> the meetings<br>
> > that were missed during the NomCom Review but also the<br>
> important<br>
> > meetings afterwards that led to the Board and others pulling<br>
> > recommendation 10 from the Public Comment.<br>
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> Were these council meetings, or some private meetings?<br>
> <br>
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