<div dir="ltr"><div>I support Tapani's suggestion - we almost lost half of our four slots because of visa problems for the Hague meeting. I did manage to fight back successfully for the other one but the other slot we lost. :(<br></div><div><br></div><div>-Raoul<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 9 Jun 2022 at 14:06, Tapani Tarvainen <<a href="mailto:ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info">ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Bruna,<br>
<br>
I would like to suggest a topic for the CEO meeting. And for other<br>
relevant fora as well. Namely, an old but still very relevant one,<br>
now that meetings have become physical again:<br>
<br>
Visa problems with people from certain areas in the world, notably<br>
Africa.<br>
<br>
In particular, I would highlight the time limits in Community Travel<br>
Support Guidelines, which say that substitutions must be made at the<br>
latest 45 days before the event.<br>
<br>
Given the timeframe traveller decisions are made, visa problems are<br>
often not even known that early.<br>
<br>
Arguing that the policy is the same for everyone is disingenious,<br>
as the problem doesn't apply to everyone equally.<br>
<br>
When you look at their actual effect, these rules are clearly<br>
discriminatory, if not outright racist, in practice.<br>
<br>
As a concrete small step that would help at least a little, those<br>
substitution time limits should be relaxed when the reason for<br>
the substitution is a visa problem.<br>
<br>
In addition to the usual things like negotiating about it with<br>
the host country already before selecting the meeting site.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Tapani Tarvainen<br>
<br>
On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 12:10:34PM +0200, Bruna Martins dos Santos (<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@GMAIL.COM</a>) wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Dear all,<br>
> <br>
> It's time again! We are starting the preparations for ICANN 74, thats<br>
> finally going to be a Hybrid meeting in The Hague from rom 13-16 June 2022. In<br>
> light of that, i'd like to bring the following topics/requests to our list:<br>
> <br>
> *NCSG Membership Meeting agenda*<br>
> I would like to ask you whether you'd like to contribute to the NCSG<br>
> meeting agenda with the suggestions of topics or community/staff members we<br>
> could invite to join.<br>
> <br>
> *NCSG Leadership Meeting with ICANN CEO*<br>
> On June 1stI will have another 1:1 meeting with Goran Marby and am also<br>
> welcoming suggestions of topics our members would like me to discuss with<br>
> him during this upcoming meeting.<br>
> <br>
> Feel free to reply to this thread or to me privately with suggestions of<br>
> topics and issues we could bring to the table both at our membership<br>
> meeting but also with Mr. Marby.<br>
> <br>
> Looking forward to hearing back from you and seeing some in The Hague.<br>
> <br>
> Best,<br>
> -- <br>
> <br>
> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *<br>
> <br>
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