<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Thank you Tomslin,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">There we go, with another unnecessary EPDP. And a bunch of staff introduced questions. And as I mentioned before, underrepresented NCSG on an EPDP. Which is not an oversight - or if it is, can you please fix it at the GNSO council level at some point? NCSG has 3 reps and CSG has 9! I'd like the GNSO council members of NCSG to take note of this. It should not happen in the future. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">In short, I think these questions are unnecessary. The technical definitions are out there, and the management and coordination decisions have to be made by policy groups that work on generic names- </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">So going to the questions. Let me clarify why I even understand a page of this long-winded document: I was a part of the LGR RZ and helped with the Persian version (a Persian speaking linguist took over from me, which is a good thing). </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">There we talked about and came to consensus for technical definitions. Next step was for the applicants to just follow ICANN's process to apply to manage the variants. The problem is not that the IDNs technical definition is ambiguous. The problem is that, ICANN's delegation and coordination process are not clear. So this is technically not an IDN related issue. It's the generic name delegation process. But what about the ccTLD-IDNs? well ICANN decided to give the operation to the operators that managed the ccTLDs in latin. Do they want to fix that? I guess not. But they might want to expand the definitions in this way to the name of cities in other languages. And I think that is what we need to watch and be worried about. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">It would be good not to repeat the past mistakes, for example not to reserve the second level domains for the same applicant but I tried to fight that multiple times and found out this is really a rhetorical question, not a policy one. You either confirm what the practice is now or you can make eternal objections. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Best </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 7:56 PM Tomslin Samme-Nlar <<a href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com">mesumbeslin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear members,</div><div><br></div><div>As you know, the Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs EPDP) has just begun its work. For those not following it, this is the WG assigned the task to develop policy recommendations on: 1) the definition of gTLDs and the management of variant labels; and 2) how the IDN Implementation Guidelines, which Contracted Parties are required to comply with, should be updated in the future. <br></div><div><br></div><div>As a member of the WG myself, I can quickly update that the group has just sent its proposed work schedule to the GNSO council for approval and have started substantial deliberations on the first topic:
<span lang="EN-US">Consistent definition and technical utilization of Root Zone - Label Generation Rules (RZ-LGR).</span></div><div><span lang="EN-US"><br></span></div><div><span lang="EN-US">Which brings me to the reason for my email. The WG is seeking early inputs from the community as part of GNSO policy development requirements. Please see the attached document for more details. <br></span>
</div><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Best regards,<br></div>Tomslin<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Nathalie Peregrine</b> <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:nathalie.peregrine@icann.org" target="_blank">nathalie.peregrine@icann.org</a>></span><br>Date: Wed, Sep 29, 2021 at 3:20 PM<br>Subject: Request for early input to SO/AC/SG/Cs - IDNs EPDP<br>To: Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: Maryam Bakoshi <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org" target="_blank">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>>, Brenda Brewer <<a href="mailto:brenda.brewer@icann.org" target="_blank">brenda.brewer@icann.org</a>>, Andrea Glandon <<a href="mailto:andrea.glandon@icann.org" target="_blank">andrea.glandon@icann.org</a>>, Steve Chan <<a href="mailto:steve.chan@icann.org" target="_blank">steve.chan@icann.org</a>>, Emily Barabas <<a href="mailto:emily.barabas@icann.org" target="_blank">emily.barabas@icann.org</a>>, <a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a> <<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>><br></div><br><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Dear</span><span lang="EN-US"> Bruna<span style="color:black">,</span></span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Please find attached a request from the GNSO<span> </span></span><b><span style="color:black">Expedited Policy Development Process on Internationalized Domain Names (IDNs EPDP</span></b><b><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">)</span></b><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">for<span> </span>input from your group on topics within the EPDP’s charter. Responses are requested by 10 November 2021 and may be sent to<span> </span><a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>.</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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<span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Kind regards,</span><span style="color:black"></span></p>
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</div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><b><i>Bruna Martins dos Santos <br></i></b><div dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><br></div><p style="color:rgb(34,34,34);margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size:11px"></span></font></span></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><font style="color:rgb(34,34,34)" size="2"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font color="#000000">German Chancellor Fellow 21' (</font></span></font><font face="arial, sans-serif" color="#000000">Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatinnen</font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif">) | <a href="https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/" target="_blank">Alexander von Humboldt Foundation</a></span></p><p style="color:rgb(34,34,34);margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><font size="2"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font color="#000000">Member | <a href="https://direitosnarede.org.br/" target="_blank">Coalizão Direitos na Rede</a> <br>Chair</font></span></font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif"> | <a href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/stakeholders-constituencies/ncsg" target="_blank">Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group at ICANN</a><br></span><font size="2"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font color="#000000">Co-Coordinator</font></span></font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans-serif"> | <a href="https://igcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Internet Governance Caucus </a><br></span><font size="2"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><br></font></span></font></p><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font size="1" color="#000000"><font size="2">Twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/boomartins" target="_blank"><font color="#1155cc">@</font>boomartins</a> // </font></font></span><span style="color:rgb(32,33,36)">Skype: bruna.martinsantos</span></div></div><div><font size="1"><a href="mailto:bruna@dataprivacybr.org" target="_blank">bruna@dataprivacybr.org</a> and <a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote">
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