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<p>As I said to the policy committee, I am sorry that this is so
late. Our last (extra) meeting was on Thursday, and it was really
only in the last week that it became apparent that if we wanted
our arguments on the record, we would need to put in a statement.
So yes I did send the first draft to the policy committee, and no
one has commented from that group. We then immediately sent it to
the list.</p>
<p>WE have been making the argument about gig workers for several
weeks now. These folks would normally be employees, but they are
forced into contractor roles, largely [in my personal opinion] to
avoid the employer/employee relationship and all the protections
that years of labour law have brought to workers. I have
recognized the need to distance ourselves from them as our
constituents....they cannot be, if they are contractors working in
a commercial sense, although there are some that might not be
excluded from our potential membership....it depends.
Nevertheless, they may have privacy rights, and this is what the
discussion is about. <br>
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<p>WHen we were dealing with the question of who was entitled to
privacy proxy services, this issue also surfaced, along with the
competitive issues. Big corporations often use lawyers to
register their domains, for a number of reasons, with or without
the use of proxy services. Small operations, whether commercial
or not, do not do this for many reasons, cost being one. The
whole issue of disclosure of data, personal or not, is a serious
competition issue that never seems to arise in the discussion.</p>
<p>Kind regards,</p>
<p>Stephanie Perrin<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2021-09-10 7:28 p.m., farzaneh badii
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<div>You gave us only a couple of hours to look at this and i
hope the Policy Committee was consulted. Anyhow I think you
should (if you really wanna send this statement) delete this
paragraph it is absolutely unrelated to the core of the issue: </div>
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<p class="s4" style="margin-top:5px;margin-bottom:5px;line-height:21.600000381469727px;margin-left:18px;font-size:18px"><span class="s3" style="line-height:21.600000381469727px;font-family:"Times
New Roman"">We have also spoken for the rights of gig
workers, sole contractors, and independent artists, </span><span class="s3" style="line-height:21.600000381469727px;font-family:"Times
New Roman"">sales</span><span class="s3" style="line-height:21.600000381469727px;font-family:"Times
New Roman""> and tradespeople, even though we are
explicitly chartered to represent the non</span><span class="s3" style="line-height:21.600000381469727px;font-family:"Times
New Roman"">-</span><span class="s3" style="line-height:21.600000381469727px;font-family:"Times
New Roman"">commercial stakeholders. Nobody else is
representing these folks, whose numbers</span><span class="s3" style="line-height:21.600000381469727px;font-family:"Times
New Roman""> are growing apace as employment patterns
morph with the global Internet economy. This gap speaks
tellingly of the emphasis on big business, and the lack of
focus on competitive issues which are exacerbated by DNS
policy.</span><span class="s3" style="line-height:21.600000381469727px;font-family:"Times
New Roman""> We hope that the contracted parties will
address the rights of these </span><span class="s3" style="line-height:21.600000381469727px;font-family:"Times
New Roman"">individuals, and</span><span class="s3" style="line-height:21.600000381469727px;font-family:"Times
New Roman""> be careful to ensure that they are treated
fairly and with due respect for privacy norms when this
policy is implemented.</span></p>
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<p>OK folks, Manju and I like the new draft, I put a line or
two in to acknowledge Milton's point (with which I agree)
and off it goes before the deadline hits.</p>
<p>Thanks for your participation, it is always much
appreciated!</p>
<p>Stephanie Perrin and Man-ju Chen<br>
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<p>I just edited the Google doc to reflect some of the
comments. We need to wrap this up guys. <br>
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<p>cheers Stephanie Perrin</p>
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<div>First of all, thanks <a class="gmail_plusreply" href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">@Stephanie
Perrin</a> and <a class="gmail_plusreply" href="mailto:manju@nii.org.tw" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">@陳曼茹 Manju Chen</a> for the
draft. Although I know we are on a tight deadline i
took the liberty of transforming the word doc into a
google docs to facilitate the commenting process -
if theres any. </div>
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<div>Should we set a deadline for comments ? <br>
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link is here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QJO4R0PNUTj3MDYMbGmjXpAbjTxHzfAl/edit" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/<wbr>1QJO4R0PNUTj3MDYMbGmjXpAbjTxHz<wbr>fAl/edit</a></div>
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<div>best, </div>
<div>Bruna</div>
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Man-ju Chen and I have been working on a proposed
minority statement for <br>
the final report of the EPDP phase 2a group. We
have met over the last <br>
9 months, the final meeting was last Thursday, and
since it appears that <br>
most SGs and ACs are drafting minority statements to
reinforce their <br>
views, we have crafted a quick two page brief that
reiterates many of <br>
the points we have been trying to make, that are not
particularly <br>
visible in the final report. We can of course
comment publicly, but <br>
that is not as visible.<br>
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We are on deadline for tomorrow, I do apologize for
the last minute <br>
notice but work has been quite hectic on this
committee. Your comments <br>
are welcome.<br>
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Kind regards,<br>
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Stephanie Perrin and Man-ju Chen<br>
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