<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hello all,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I would like to join Stephanie on this, to provide assistance or any useful help.<br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 28 Feb 2021, at 17:49, Stephanie E Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca" class="">stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class=""><p class="">I will volunteer to draft this thing. Fair warning though, I
think we have to comment on the fact that every time we make a
concession on something and compromise, at the next stage of the
game, the other side re-litigates old issues. There are also a
number of hardy perennials in the EPDP combat zone that just keep
coming back despite the agreed policy.....such as the fact that we
are aiming for a harmonized policy, not just compliance with GDPR
in regions where it's application is incontestable. A question of
bargaining in good faith, one might say, continues to haunt this
work.<br class="">
</p><p class="">All help gratefully received.</p><p class="">Stephanie Perrin<br class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2021-02-28 3:45 a.m., Tomslin
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<div class="">In a similar vein and more on SSAD, I would like to remind
members that there is an open Public Comment proceeding
seeking input on the final recommendations that relate to SSAD
which closes in 30 days. We still do not have any volunteers
to draft the comment.</div>
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<div class="">The announcement is here >> <a href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/epdp-2-policy-recs-board-2021-02-08-en" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://www.icann.org/public-comments/epdp-2-policy-recs-board-2021-02-08-en</a></div>
<div class="">And the draft comment is here >> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QAUa2nT2a9YGGhK0r603EJCXfa58elXd9kPh3DH0DrU/edit?usp=sharing" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QAUa2nT2a9YGGhK0r603EJCXfa58elXd9kPh3DH0DrU/edit?usp=sharing</a></div>
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<div class="">I'm writing to let you know that I have just received a
response from the ICANN CEO to our communication re.
SSAD. <br class="">
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Bruna </div>
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11:02 PM Kristi Hoffmaster <<a href="mailto:kristi.hoffmaster@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">kristi.hoffmaster@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="auto" class="">Please include this - crucial:</div>
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<div class=""><div style="line-height: 1.38; margin-left: 108pt; text-align: justify; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">1. Could you please clarify in what ways the SSAD could be instrumental for stopping and preventing the dissemination of illegal content and in order to avoid related societal harms ?</span></div><p dir="ltr" id="gmail-m_5357874797314577468gmail-m_-1765663726647508483docs-internal-guid-ce044bf4-7fff-f07f-6446-9b4e137b5fb3" style="line-height:1.38;margin-left:108pt;text-align:justify;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:italic;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap" class="">
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at 6:11 PM Poncelet Jokkolabs Banjul <<a href="mailto:pileleji@jokkolabs.co" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">pileleji@jokkolabs.co</a>>
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<div class="">First of all, thank you very much for the
comments on this thread. As suggested, I took
the liberty of taking Sam's comments and
shaping into a letter to the ICANN Board and
CEO on this topic. <br class="">
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<div class="">The darft can be found here - <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Mmax62EkxSRgr8AMi8jqnNXlP36cjRdfqFy6gYrmnPY/edit" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Mmax62EkxSRgr8AMi8jqnNXlP36cjRdfqFy6gYrmnPY/edit</a>
- and I would like to invite you all to add
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<div class="">Considering this letter is about a
communication issued by ICANN Org to the EPDB
in December, I would say it's good for us to
send it maybe next week. But, as usual, I
would like to hear your thoughts on the matter
as well. <br class="">
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2021 at 7:56 PM Sam Lanfranco <<a href="mailto:lanfran@yorku.ca" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">lanfran@yorku.ca</a>>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Milton, the comments
are in the public domain and the NCSG is
free to use them as they see fit. Thanks
for the support.</p><p class="MsoNormal">Sam </p><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
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Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">milton@gatech.edu</a>>
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<b class="">Sent:</b> Friday, January 8, 2021
3:51 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> Sam Lanfranco <<a href="mailto:lanfran@yorku.ca" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">lanfran@yorku.ca</a>>;
<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> RE: ICANN Comments
to EDPB and content regulation</p>
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</div><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="">This is a
great comment, Sam, why don’t NCSG
officers just copy and paste them into
an emailed letter to the CEO and
Board?</span></p><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)" class=""> </span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
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NCSG-Discuss <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>>
<b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Sam Lanfranco<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> Friday, January 8, 2021
2:22 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> <a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: ICANN Comments
to EDPB and content regulation</p>
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</div><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal">As I understand the “<b class=""><i class="">ICANN
org Comments on the Recommendations
01/2020 on Measures That Supplement
Transfer Tools to Ensure Compliance
With the EU Level of Protection
of Personal Data</i></b>”, they deal
primarily with the transfer of data
between regulatory jurisdictions and the
processes necessary to meet a strict
interpretation of the GDPR’s
international data transfer
requirements.
</p><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal">This has absolutely
nothing to do with “…<i class="">stopping and
preventing the dissemination of
illegal content and in order to avoid
related societal harms</i>.” (<b class=""><i class="">Comments:
p. 2</i></b>) except in so far as
legitimate requests by legal authorities
may be related to investigations around
such matters. Given that such matters
reside outside ICANN’s remit, ICANN org
should be asked to expunge the phrase
from its position on transfer tool
compliance with the EU’s personal data
protections.
</p><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal">Secondly, I have a
couple of questions in areas that are
not clear to me. The
<b class=""><i class="">Comments</i></b> say that the
proposed SSAD model would introduce <i class="">“…a
centralized process for managing
access requests and placing ICANN org
in the middle of this process</i>.”
They go on to say “<i class="">ICANN org or its
designee(s) would manage a system for
the intake of requests for data and
would route these requests to the
registrar or registry operator for a
response</i>.”
</p><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal">It is not clear if,
in one way or another, ICANN would be
the central clearing house for dealing
with such requests, and it is not clear
to whom “<i class="">designee(s</i>)” refers to.
My question is whether an ICANN-centric
clearing house is the proper solution
here, or whether a less centralized
multilateral agreed upon set of
principles (and processes) would better
serve the intended objectives? Also, any
transfer involves at least two national
jurisdictions, so a rogue recipient
state’s behavior could be blocked by a
sending state in compliance with agreed
principles and processes.
</p><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal">Lastly, is there an
issue of who decides whether an
inter-state request is legitimate?</p><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal">Sam Lanfranco </p><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
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NCSG-Discuss <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>>
<b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Stephanie
Perrin<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> Friday, January 8, 2021
10:33 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> <a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: ICANN Comments
to EDPB and content regulation</p>
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</div><div class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for raising
this Farzi, i will confess that i was
goofing off at Christmas and totally
missed this letter. I will raise it at
the next EPDP meeting, and I think this
ought to be raised at Council as well.
I should have raised it at the meeting
yesterday of the small team looking at
the other SSAD response (letter from the
Board) even if it is a mite off topic
there....this is a real howler.</p>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks again!</p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Stephanie
Perrin</p>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my
iPhone</p>
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7, 2021, at 21:03, Raphael
Beauregard-Lacroix <<a href="mailto:rbeauregardlacroix@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">rbeauregardlacroix@gmail.com</a>>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Thank you
Farzaneh and Bruna. Could easily
have flown under the radar and
forgotten after Christmas. This
is certainly an important
matter. Looks typical in its
language: putting various kinds
of processing as matters of
"necessity" without looking into
purpose and context of such
processing. ICANN is no
"surveillance capitalist," but
precisely if it sticks to its
narrow mandate and to
appropriately, narrowly
designed processing, it will
also steer clear of any form of
trouble with (most) DPAs and
their related statutes. Now, if
it starts giving in to pressures
by certain interests to stop the
"social harm" of fake gucci bags
(hmm...), well, we get that kind
of letter, I suppose.</p>
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happy to help on the matter.</p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Have a nice
day!</p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jan
5, 2021 at 10:27 AM Bruna
Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Thank you
so much for raising this
here Farz. I will
definitely mention this
topic when I have my next
interaction with Goran. </p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">About
the Content Moderation
part, I agree with you
that this topic might be
absolutely out of the
scope of the SSAD and
ICANN as well. And this
has been a point this
community has raised
before - more than just
once and about Whois and
CoMo. I also happen to
agree that the definitions
of Illegal content and
content related to
societal harm are rather
open and problematic for
the SSAD - or for many
other discussions as
well. <br class="">
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Should we work on a letter
- to the Board, the EPDB
or both - reviving our
arguments about Whois and
Content moderation and
send it once again ? Are
there any volunteers who
would like help me with
this ? <br class="">
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Best, <br class="">
Bruna </p>
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Jan 5, 2021 at 12:00 PM
farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">In my spare time, I got to read
ICANN's letter dated
21 December 2020 to
EDPB about
compliance with
GDPR. </span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">There was one alarming issue
raised in this
letter, and since
the Internet
community has been
mentioned, I think
we should at least
ask Bruna to raise
it with the CEO next
time she talks to
him. I know we
haven't drafted
other important
comments but I
haven't followed
EPDP so will leave
that to the members.</span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">P.2: "</span><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif" class="">The
SSAD is therefore
instrumental for
stopping and
preventing the</span><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class=""></span></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><i class="">dissemination
of illegal content
and in order to
avoid related
societal harm</i></b>s<span class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">". This is alarming because the
SSAD is serving
ICANN's mission
which has nothing to
do with the
regulation of
illegal content and
that is outside of
its mission. I don't
know what they mean
by societal harm. We
have many times told
ICANN not to be
careless when it
comes to the limited
function of WHOIS
and relate it to
content regulation.
They said they
wouldn't. But here
they are definitely
going into those
territories. </span></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class=""><span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif" class="">There are other matters in the
letter as well but
I haven't had the
time to read
closely, for
example they are
talking about
"thick WHOIS" not
happening because
of the strict
international
transfer. I am not
sure where epdp is
at with discussing
thick whois. Can
we even have it in
place? </span></span></p>
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