<div dir="ltr"><div>Well said Farzaneh.</div><div><br></div><div>Thato<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 7:27 PM farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Bruna, </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Sorry this is off topic but since we are still discussing why people don't engage, I'd like to give you some background. Though you have your own valuable experience, it might help. We can also start another thread. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">People can be inactive at ICANN and NCSG for the following reasons: </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">1. they don't know what will come off it. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">2. DNS and ICANN work is not an important part of Internet governance anymore. People want to do exciting stuff and not work on such a narrow field. We should just accept that. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">3.They don't know where to start from. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">These are what come to my mind. But I wonder why we are guessing, how about we just ask people why they don't engage! </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">One thing that is crucial which Renata did so well was to encourage new people to get involved by working on little tasks that doesn't take a lot of their time. Renata's outreach skills and work were effective and excellent. Yes we had perhaps too many outreach sessions but because of her work we have active members like you, Tomslin, Shahul and others that contribute regularly. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Another issue is to tell people how they can get engaged. Forwarding emails with no word about how they can get engaged or what the email even means, is like sending busy people a piece in cuneiform asking them to contribute. I know you might use google translate nowadays for anything, but we need to decrease the transaction costs of volunteering and increase its benefit so that people can engage. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Mentorship, talking to interested NCSG members one-on-one and asking them what they want to work on are some other suggestions. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">And again we should remember that NCSG is a voluntary group working on a really narrow issue that can be less exciting. Voting doesn't cost people too much. Doing a ton of work for a voluntary group should be goal oriented and people should know what they will achieve (intellectual achievements are harder to sell, I admit). Having people become members and not be active is normal even in very important fields. Just like the elections, where some people's civic participation is limited to voting and a minority actively campaign for someone and engage in debates. But we need to revive the minority of volunteers at NCSG and I am sure that we can achieve that under your leadership.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:29 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hello NCSG, <div><br>In light of the discussions hosted on both NCUCs and NCSGs open meetings at ICANN69, <a class="gmail_plusreply" id="gmail-m_9088186267412616024gmail-m_5985046916592930836plusReplyChip-0" href="mailto:rbeauregardlacroix@gmail.com" target="_blank">@Raphaël Beauregard-Lacroix</a> and myself worked on some amendments to the proposed charter for the Strategic Review Working Group.<br><br>The charter can be found here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/19IZOoZVn-SmvZ2peYYULmQ6dTNAMEjb63jWCtOmGCJc/edit" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/19IZOoZVn-SmvZ2peYYULmQ6dTNAMEjb63jWCtOmGCJc/edit</a><br><br>And, in case any of you is still interested in joining these efforts, please email <a class="gmail_plusreply" id="gmail-m_9088186267412616024gmail-m_5985046916592930836plusReplyChip-1" href="mailto:rbeauregardlacroix@gmail.com" target="_blank">@Raphaël Beauregard-Lacroix</a>, Maryam, <a class="gmail_plusreply" id="gmail-m_9088186267412616024gmail-m_5985046916592930836plusReplyChip-4" href="mailto:brenda.brewer@icann.org" target="_blank">@Brenda Brewer</a> or myself. <br><br>Best regards, </div><div>Bruna Santos </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 12:27 PM Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank">milton@gatech.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">The task of the Working Group will be to explore the issues raised by an attempt to merge the two constituencies into an integrated Noncommercial Stakeholder Group. The group will conduct a thorough fact-finding operation to address:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">1. Whether or not double constituencies creates duplicate administrative work<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">2. The impact of a merger on ICANN travel support and other resource availability<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">3. The charter changes that would have to be made to implement a merger<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">4. Whether diverse policy perspectives would be reduced by a merger<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">5. Any other relevant issues related to a merger it uncovers<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dr. Milton L Mueller<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Georgia Institute of Technology<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">School of Public Policy<u></u><u></u></p>
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