<div dir="auto"><div>I imagine it'll be quite complex to fit the Operational design phase to overlap with the closing stages of a PDP and the discussing stage of the GNSO council, to make it happen before a PDP report is voted on. </div><div dir="auto">Does it mean if the design phase is not complete, the PDP will have to ask for time extension even if it is able to finalize its report as it does today? Or if the PDP produces its final report but the design phase is not complete, the council vote will be asked to be delayed?<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Cheers,<br>Tomslin<br> </div><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu., 15 Oct. 2020, 00:20 Stephanie E Perrin, <<a href="mailto:stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca">stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p><br>
</p>
<div>Members may recall that we have
proposed discussing the Operational Design Phase concept paper for
our discussion with the Board at ICANN 69. I am forwarding a
followup note from Mary Wong, to encourage our members to figure
out how to modify that paper in order to better reflect the points
she raises. In other words, I am not sure the paper currently
makes these points which she raises clear.</div>
<div>This paper is another example of
a consultation that is not a formal consultation.....our feedback
is sought, but not in a formal, disciplined way in the way our
pdp reports get formal comments. I realize the products are
different, but I am still a big fan of a more formal comment
process where we can see in one place what all our MS partners
have contributed to refining the product. I will raise that
point.</div>
<div>Let me know if you wish to speak
to any of the topics on the agenda for our Board discussion. I
attach the report for your convenience; I draw your attention to
page 7 and following. We need to comment very substantively on
this document, I expect Rafik will raise the issue at the next
policy committee meeting.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Stephanie Perrin<br>
</div>
<div>NCSG Chair (for only a few days
now!!)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
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<td>Re: [council] Draft Operational Design Phase for gTLD
Policy Implementation: For Initial Feedback.</td>
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<th valign="BASELINE" nowrap align="RIGHT">Date: </th>
<td>Wed, 7 Oct 2020 16:47:29 +0000</td>
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<th valign="BASELINE" nowrap align="RIGHT">From: </th>
<td>Mary Wong <a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><mary.wong@icann.org></a></td>
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<td>Drazek, Keith <a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><kdrazek@verisign.com></a>,
<a href="mailto:Donna@registry.godaddy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Donna@registry.godaddy</a> <a href="mailto:Donna@registry.godaddy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><Donna@registry.godaddy></a>,
<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">council@gnso.icann.org</a> <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><council@gnso.icann.org></a></td>
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<td><a href="mailto:claudia.selli@intl.att.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">claudia.selli@intl.att.com</a>
<a href="mailto:claudia.selli@intl.att.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><claudia.selli@intl.att.com></a>, <a href="mailto:aheineman@godaddy.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">aheineman@godaddy.com</a>
<a href="mailto:aheineman@godaddy.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><aheineman@godaddy.com></a>, <a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>
<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><bruna.mrtns@gmail.com></a>,
<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a>
<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de></a>,
<a href="mailto:stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca</a>
<a href="mailto:stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca></a></td>
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<br>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dear all,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">As you and your community groups begin to
review the draft Operational Design Phase concept paper, we
thought it might be helpful to follow up on the discussion
from the GNSO Council’s Working Session yesterday. As Keith
notes (below) and as spelled out in the paper, the basic idea
is to have a clearer structure and methodology around the
design and planning work that needs to be done to implement
approved policy recommendations; in particular, those
implementation efforts that involve costly or complex
planning, resourcing and modeling work. <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The paper recognizes that ICANN org already
tracks and (if requested or required) provides operational
input to a PDP during the policy development phase and through
the Consensus Policy Implementation Framework. The paper also
emphasizes the GNSO’s role and responsibility for substantive
policy development, as it specifically acknowledges that the
design phase cannot supplant or modify PDP recommendations and
is not a forum for reopening policy discussions. It also notes
the possibility of initiating the design phase in the closing
stages of a PDP rather than after the GNSO Council vote.
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">As such, and given the broad experience
across the GNSO community with multiple PDPs and IRTs, it
could be particularly helpful to hear your feedback about
(among other things): (1) the timing and kick off of an
Operational Design Phase; (2) suggestions for aligning the
necessary implementation planning by ICANN org with the
existing PDP framework (under which PDP Working Groups can
request data collection and where PDP outcomes can include
recommendations about technical specifications, budget issues
and surveys); and (3) the potential scope and utility of the
proposed community Design Feedback Group.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you. We look forward to the GNSO
community’s input and to continuing to engage with you and the
wider community on this proposal.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Mary<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">council
<a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><council-bounces@gnso.icann.org></a> on behalf of
"Drazek, Keith via council" <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><council@gnso.icann.org></a><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>"Drazek, Keith"
<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><kdrazek@verisign.com></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 13:39<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:Donna@registry.godaddy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">"Donna@registry.godaddy"</a>
<a href="mailto:Donna@registry.godaddy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><Donna@registry.godaddy></a>, <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">"council@gnso.icann.org"</a>
<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><council@gnso.icann.org></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:claudia.selli@intl.att.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">"claudia.selli@intl.att.com"</a>
<a href="mailto:claudia.selli@intl.att.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><claudia.selli@intl.att.com></a>,
<a href="mailto:aheineman@godaddy.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">"aheineman@godaddy.com"</a> <a href="mailto:aheineman@godaddy.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><aheineman@godaddy.com></a>,
<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">"bruna.mrtns@gmail.com"</a> <a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><bruna.mrtns@gmail.com></a>,
<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">"wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"</a>
<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de></a>,
<a href="mailto:stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">"stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca"</a>
<a href="mailto:stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca></a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [council] Draft Operational Design
Phase for gTLD Policy Implementation: For Initial
Feedback.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Donna, all,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Good questions. There is no fixed deadline
for feedback, but Theresa joined today’s GNSO Council
Pre-ICANN Planning Meeting and said they’re looking for
feedback during and after ICANN 69. My understanding is that
ICANN Org is responding to the ICANN Board to provide
additional data associated with costs/complexity of PDP
recommendations, likely to include EPDP Phase 2/SSAD and
eventually the SubPro recommendations.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Keith<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:Donna@registry.godaddy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Donna@registry.godaddy</a>
<a href="mailto:Donna@registry.godaddy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><Donna@registry.godaddy></a>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 5, 2020 3:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Drazek, Keith <a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><kdrazek@verisign.com></a>;
'<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">council@gnso.icann.org</a>' <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><council@gnso.icann.org></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:aheineman@godaddy.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">aheineman@godaddy.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:claudia.selli@intl.att.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">claudia.selli@intl.att.com</a>; <a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca</a>;
<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] RE: Draft Operational Design
Phase for gTLD Policy Implementation: For Initial
Feedback.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Thanks Keith</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">At what point
does ICANN org intend to use this? I’m trying to work out if
it is intended to use it for the EPDP Phase 2
recommendations recently approved by the GNSO Council or
other PDPs that are expected to be concluded later this
year?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Personally, I’m
concerned that we are already hamstrung by too much process
and this will add another layer of complexity that I’m not
convinced is warranted. It seems this is largely a role that
ICANN org should be filling anyway. Of course I will share
this with the RySG and see their input. Is there a deadline
I need to be cognizant of?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Donna</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Drazek, Keith [<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 05, 2020 2:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> '<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">council@gnso.icann.org</a>' <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Donna Austin <<a href="mailto:Donna@registry.godaddy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Donna@registry.godaddy</a>>;
Ashley Heineman <<a href="mailto:aheineman@godaddy.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">aheineman@godaddy.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:claudia.selli@intl.att.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">claudia.selli@intl.att.com</a>; <a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">
bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>;
<a href="mailto:stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stephanie@digitaldiscretion.ca</a>;
<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Draft Operational Design Phase for
gTLD Policy Implementation: For Initial Feedback.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">During the 23 September SO/AC Leaders
call with Goran, Maarten and Leon, the concept of an
“Operational Design Phase” was introduced by Goran. We had a
preliminary discussion on the topic and Goran indicated that
ICANN would produce a paper for community consideration and
feedback. That paper is attached here for your review, and
Goran’s email to the SO/AC Leaders is below. I’ll highlight
3 points from Goran’s note and from the discussion on the
call:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal">The
objective for the design phase is to better prepare the
Board by providing operational and resourcing information
before making decisions on GNSO-approved policy
recommendations.<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="MsoNormal">While
the GNSO Council is the manager of the PDP and gTLD policy
development is within the GNSO's remit, consensus policy
making involves all stakeholders (including ACs who give
advice to the Board).
<u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="MsoNormal">This
design phase concept doesn't affect policy development or
the CPIF. It recognizes that if policy issues are
impacted, they rightfully go back to the GNSO for its
consideration, rather than permitting ICANN Org or Board
to make unilateral changes. (I made this point during the
call)<u></u><u></u></li>
</ul>
<p> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0in">Please
review the attached paper and work within your SGs and Cs to
develop feedback. Also, Karen Lentz will touch on this
during our Tuesday Council Working Session.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0in"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0in">To Goran’s
last point about conducting a “fuller consultation on the
gTLD policy lifecycle,” we’ll need to ensure that the GNSO
Council and our SGs and Cs are prepared to engage where
appropriate and in light of our ongoing PDP 3.0 work and the
upcoming GNSO Review.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0in"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0in">Thanks and
regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p style="margin-left:0in">Keith<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> soac-chairs <<a href="mailto:soac-chairs-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">soac-chairs-bounces@icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Goran Marby<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 2, 2020 3:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:soac-chairs@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">soac-chairs@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Goran Marby <<a href="mailto:goran.marby@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">goran.marby@icann.org</a>>;
David Olive <<a href="mailto:david.olive@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">david.olive@icann.org</a>>;
Cassia Oliveira <<a href="mailto:cassia.oliveira@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">cassia.oliveira@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] [soac-chairs] Draft
Operational Design Phase for gTLD Policy Implementation:
For Initial Feedback.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
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<p><span style="color:black">Cassia Oliveira on behalf of
Goran Marby</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Dear SOAC leaders,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Thank you again for taking
the time to meet with Maarten and me last week. I am
writing to follow up on one of ICANN org’s action
items from that call, which was for me to finalize and
circulate to you a proposal for a new Operational
Design Phase relating to the implementation of
approved gTLD policies. As we discussed, the objective
for an additional design phase is to allow the Board
to obtain relevant information about any operational
and resourcing issues associated with certain policy
implementation efforts. Accordingly, the Operational
Design Phase is envisioned to take place prior to
Board action on GNSO-approved policy recommendations,
initiated through a Board request to ICANN org. Our
expectation is that an Operational Design Phase will
likely only be needed for complex, costly or other
large-scale implementation efforts.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="color:black">I appreciate the thoughtful
and substantive discussion we had on this topic during
our call. While gTLD policy development work is
managed by the GNSO, the other Supporting
Organizations and the Advisory Committees play
important roles in ensuring that ICANN consensus
policies are developed through community consensus and
are appropriately resourced. Thank you for the
comments and suggestions you made on the call, which
we have tried to address as much as possible in this
initial draft paper.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Please circulate the paper to
your community groups for their review and further
discussion. As I mentioned on our call, ICANN org will
continue to refine the paper and welcome your feedback
as part of this iterative process. After ICANN69, we
plan to conduct a fuller community consultation on the
gTLD policy lifecycle, to include an updated version
of this paper and to gather community feedback on any
updates we can make to improve the efficacy and
efficiency of the policy making process.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="color:black">Best regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p><span style="color:black"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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President & CEO ICANN<br>
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Cássia Oliveira<br>
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