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<p>Members may be aware that the issue of seats on the Nomcom has
arisen in the context of the NOMCOM review. We have been pushing
for years to get an additional seat (one for each constituency).
As you can see from the thread below, there are quite a few of our
colleagues who feel that status quo on NOMCOM is fine.</p>
<p>For those wishing to do the research on what is going on with the
NOMCOM review, the wiki is here
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://community.icann.org/display/OR/Review+Phase">https://community.icann.org/display/OR/Review+Phase</a>. Bruna
attended the meeting referenced in the thread below, and I am
pushing for another meeting. Our position of course will be one
of fundamental fairness for the two sides of the Non-contracted
party house. We have a number of members who have served on the
Nomcom in the past, it would be great to hear what they have to
say about the proposed options, particularly Option 2.<br>
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<p>Stephanie Perrin</p>
<p>NCSG Chair<br>
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<td>RE: Following up: NomCom RIWG call with GNSO community
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<td>Barbara Wanner <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bwanner@uscib.org"><bwanner@uscib.org></a></td>
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<td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wuknoben@gmail.com">wuknoben@gmail.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wuknoben@gmail.com"><wuknoben@gmail.com></a>, 'Austin,
Donna' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar"><Donna.Austin@team.neustar></a>, 'Heather
Forrest' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com"><haforrestesq@gmail.com></a></td>
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<td>'Drazek, Keith' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com"><kdrazek@verisign.com></a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:aheineman@godaddy.com">aheineman@godaddy.com</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:aheineman@godaddy.com"><aheineman@godaddy.com></a>,
'Selli, Claudia' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:claudia.selli@intl.att.com"><claudia.selli@intl.att.com></a>, 'Dean
Marks' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ed4coa@gmail.com"><ed4coa@gmail.com></a>, 'Stephanie E Perrin'
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"><stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a>, 'Bruna Martins
dos Santos' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com"><bruna.mrtns@gmail.com></a>, 'Joan Kerr'
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:joankerr@fbsc.org"><joankerr@fbsc.org></a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jennifer.taylor@bt.com">jennifer.taylor@bt.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jennifer.taylor@bt.com"><jennifer.taylor@bt.com></a>, 'BC Executive Committee'
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bc-excomm@icann.org"><bc-excomm@icann.org></a>, Mary Wong
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org"><mary.wong@icann.org></a></td>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks Donna
and Wolf-Ulrich,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Looping in
Mary this time. Apologies! Please see our email exchanges
below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Barbara<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wuknoben@gmail.com">wuknoben@gmail.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wuknoben@gmail.com"><wuknoben@gmail.com></a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 31, 2020 12:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Barbara Wanner <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bwanner@uscib.org"><bwanner@uscib.org></a>;
'Austin, Donna' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar"><Donna.Austin@team.neustar></a>;
'Heather Forrest' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com"><haforrestesq@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Drazek, Keith' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com"><kdrazek@verisign.com></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:aheineman@godaddy.com">aheineman@godaddy.com</a>; 'Selli, Claudia'
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:claudia.selli@intl.att.com"><claudia.selli@intl.att.com></a>; 'Dean Marks'
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ed4coa@gmail.com"><ed4coa@gmail.com></a>; 'Stephanie E Perrin'
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"><stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a>; 'Bruna Martins
dos Santos' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com"><bruna.mrtns@gmail.com></a>; 'Joan Kerr'
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:joankerr@fbsc.org"><joankerr@fbsc.org></a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jennifer.taylor@bt.com">jennifer.taylor@bt.com</a>; 'BC
Executive Committee' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bc-excomm@icann.org"><bc-excomm@icann.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> AW: Following up: NomCom RIWG call with
GNSO community leaders (22 July 2020)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks all and Donna in particular,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The ISPCP is still discussing the options.
I think I’ll be back with a common view soon (I also
understood Tom and Cheryl that some more time is available).
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">My personal view is to keep the status quo
for the moment. The suggested method to select the GNSO reps
would create an enormous effort of work and discussions within
the GNSO which is not justified by the expected outcome.
There’s nothing more to fill than the existing number of
slots. And I doubt we’ll agree on a procedure before having
performed a rather holistic review.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Wolf-Ulrich<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="DE">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE"> Barbara Wanner <<a href="mailto:bwanner@uscib.org" moz-do-not-send="true">bwanner@uscib.org</a>>
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<b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 31. Juli 2020 14:50<br>
<b>An:</b> Austin, Donna <<a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" moz-do-not-send="true">Donna.Austin@team.neustar</a>>;
Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Drazek, Keith <<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" moz-do-not-send="true">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:aheineman@godaddy.com" moz-do-not-send="true">aheineman@godaddy.com</a>;
Selli, Claudia <<a href="mailto:claudia.selli@intl.att.com" moz-do-not-send="true">claudia.selli@intl.att.com</a>>;
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben <<a href="mailto:wuknoben@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">wuknoben@gmail.com</a>>;
Dean Marks <<a href="mailto:ed4coa@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">ed4coa@gmail.com</a>>;
Stephanie E Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" moz-do-not-send="true">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>;
Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>>;
Joan Kerr <<a href="mailto:joankerr@fbsc.org" moz-do-not-send="true">joankerr@fbsc.org</a>>;
<a href="mailto:jennifer.taylor@bt.com" moz-do-not-send="true">jennifer.taylor@bt.com</a>; BC
Executive Committee <<a href="mailto:bc-excomm@icann.org" moz-do-not-send="true">bc-excomm@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Betreff:</b> RE: Following up: NomCom RIWG call with
GNSO community leaders (22 July 2020)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks
Donna, Heather, Mary, and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">The BC has
not formally replied to the NomCom RIWG yet, but shares many
of the concerns articulated by the IPC and would prefer
Option 1 (status quo).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">In the
interim, we have gathered some historical background
explaining why the BC was allocated small- and
large-business seats on the NomCom back in the early 2000
period and why we feel this allocation continues to be
appropriate. We would welcome an opportunity share this via
a brief follow-up teleconference if others are amenable.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Thanks, and
let us know what the next steps will be.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Barbara<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Austin, Donna <<a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" moz-do-not-send="true">Donna.Austin@team.neustar</a>>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Drazek, Keith <<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" moz-do-not-send="true">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:aheineman@godaddy.com" moz-do-not-send="true">aheineman@godaddy.com</a>; Selli,
Claudia <<a href="mailto:claudia.selli@intl.att.com" moz-do-not-send="true">claudia.selli@intl.att.com</a>>;
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben <<a href="mailto:wuknoben@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">wuknoben@gmail.com</a>>; Dean
Marks <<a href="mailto:ed4coa@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">ed4coa@gmail.com</a>>; Barbara
Wanner <<a href="mailto:bwanner@uscib.org" moz-do-not-send="true">bwanner@uscib.org</a>>;
Stephanie E Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" moz-do-not-send="true">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>;
Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>>;
Joan Kerr <<a href="mailto:joankerr@fbsc.org" moz-do-not-send="true">joankerr@fbsc.org</a>>; <a href="mailto:jennifer.taylor@bt.com" moz-do-not-send="true">
jennifer.taylor@bt.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Following up: NomCom RIWG call with
GNSO community leaders (22 July 2020)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Heather <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I understood from Tom and Cheryl that we
had more time to work this through, but I appreciate that it
wasn’t clear what our next steps might be whether they be
collective or individual.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It’s good to have the IPC position as it
would be good to understand if others have also submitted a
reply to the RIWG.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Donna<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Jul
30, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks very much, Donna, for the
initiative. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm happy to share below what
the IPC provided to the NomCom RIWG after our call
on the 22nd. I'm mindful that we were instructed
to reply by 31 July (today), which is why I sent
out my response at the beginning of the week after
it had been confirmed by the IPC membership. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I will raise the four suggested
options with the IPC leadership before offering
any sort of firm response, but I would personally
gauge the IPC's input on the matter so far as to
align with Option 1 (status quo) unless we have
this deeper, community-wide assessment recommended
by the Independent Reviewers. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes to you and all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Heather<o:p></o:p></p>
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Jul 27, 11:13 AM (4 days ago)</span></span><span style="letter-spacing:.15pt">
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:15.0pt"><span class="gmail-hb"><span style="color:#5F6368;letter-spacing:.25pt">to </span></span><span class="gmail-g2"><span style="color:#222222;letter-spacing:.25pt">Tom</span></span><span class="gmail-hb"><span style="color:#5F6368;letter-spacing:.25pt">, </span></span><span class="gmail-g2"><span style="color:#222222;letter-spacing:.25pt">nomcomriwg</span></span><span class="gmail-hb"><span style="color:#5F6368;letter-spacing:.25pt">, </span></span><span class="gmail-g2"><span style="color:#222222;letter-spacing:.25pt">Jean-Baptiste</span></span><span class="gmail-hb"><span style="color:#5F6368;letter-spacing:.25pt">, </span></span><span class="gmail-g2"><span style="color:#222222;letter-spacing:.25pt">Lars</span></span><span class="gmail-hb"><span style="color:#5F6368;letter-spacing:.25pt">, </span></span><span class="gmail-g2"><span style="color:#222222;letter-spacing:.25pt"><a href="mailto:IPC-Leadership@icann.org" moz-do-not-send="true">IPC-Leadership@icann.org</a></span></span><span class="gmail-hb"><span style="color:#5F6368;letter-spacing:.25pt">, </span></span><span class="gmail-g2"><span style="color:#222222;letter-spacing:.25pt">Chantelle</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Dear
Tom and <span class="gmail-il">RIWG</span> colleagues,</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Thank
you for the call of 22 July and this
opportunity to provide the IPC's input
into the Bylaws change that is
proposed in relation to the
redistribution of GNSO NomCom seats.
We particularly appreciate the
opportunity to ask questions through
the SG/C leaders' call on the 22nd as
to the background and context of the
proposal. We have reflected carefully
in reviewing the proposed redline
draft.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The
IPC wishes to advise that we do not
support the proposed Bylaws
amendment.</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black"> <b>The
IPC wishes also to advise that we do
not support the NomCom <span class="gmail-il">RIWG</span> imposing
a solution of its choosing on the
GNSO. </b> </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">We
are sure that you can appreciate the
sensitivities that surround any
proposal to change the NomCom seats to
reflect the GNSO Council structure.
The GNSO Council has, as was
highlighted in the call on 22 July, a
precisely identified, narrow remit as
manager of the policy development
process. The IPC has long held and
expressed the position that the GNSO
Council structure itself does "not
accurately represent constituencies",
as the Independent Review Final Report
urges the NomCom structure to do (<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/nomcom-review-final-05jun18-en.pdf__;!!N14HnBHF!o23tKdijKNtJPHSXdtn7niwSmepj_X6FG2sUqkTE5e9395FgfoGL4xpsIoeB5Wa_3uFi$" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/nomcom-review-final-05jun18-en.pdf</a> at
p 25). The GNSO is certainly evolving,
but this goes well beyond simply
the addition of the NPOC structure
(notably the only example raised in
our call of the 22nd). The New gTLD
Program of 2012 has fundamentally
broken down the previously clear,
bright lines between contracted and
non-contracted party. Many IPC members
are also represented in other GNSO
Stakeholder Groups and
Constituencies. Members of the GNSO’s
SGs and Cs also participate in other
ICANN structures, including in
particular the At-Large, as well as
the ccNSO and SSAC. It is unnecessary
and inappropriate to mirror this
complicated and ineffectual state of
affairs in designating NomCom seats.
Further, the present structural
deficiencies will inevitably frustrate
any effort to set up some sort of new
committee or mechanism within the GNSO
for deciding on who fills these seats
on a rolling basis each year.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">While
we appreciate the suggestion that
another way of approaching this could
be for the GNSO SG/Cs themselves to
propose a solution, the IPC questions
whether we (or indeed the <span class="gmail-il">RIWG</span>) have
sufficient information to make
informed decisions. We believe that
neither we nor the <span class="gmail-il">RIWG</span> should be
rushing to change such an important
process to ICANN's accountability
without clear, documented
justification. To that end we note
that, in making Recommendation 10
("Representation on the NomCom should
be re-balanced immediately and then be
reviewed every five years."), the
Independent Reviewers advised: "A
recommendation on a precise way to
rebalance the NomCom would require a
comprehensive assessment of
representation within the ICANN
community, including a full
understanding of the history and
possible future of representation
within the SOs/ACs." </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">While
we appreciate that Rec 10 is a
Board-approved recommendation, we
agree with the Independent Reviewers
as to the necessity of this
comprehensive assessment,<span style="color:black"> and consider
that this should take into account
the impact of new gTLDs on <u>all
ICANN structures</u>, not simply
the Stakeholder Groups and
Constituencies of the GNSO. While
the upcoming GNSO Review could offer
an opportunity for such a
"comprehensive assessment of
representation" within the GNSO
structure, this should only be part
of a broader exercise of the advised
"comprehensive assessment of
representation within the ICANN
community". </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">We
will be pleased to engage further with
the <span class="gmail-il">RIWG</span>'s
processes and provide further input as
is helpful. </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">Sincerely
yours,<br>
Heather Forrest, IPC President</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 9:55 AM
Austin, Donna <<a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" moz-do-not-send="true">Donna.Austin@team.neustar</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">**Removing ICANN Staff
from this thread**</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi All</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">It seems that we have
a collective decision to make on this issue
and I’ve provided some suggestions below for
consideration.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">I’m still not
convinced that the proposed solution is
really addressing Recommendation 10, and on
reading the recommendation in full (provided
below) it seems that the intent of the
rebalancing is really not being addressed by
the solution proposed by the NomCom RIWG.
However, I do recall that Tom and Cheryl did
say that they had explored a number of
options and this is their recommended
solution.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Based on the call last
week expanding the number of NomCom members
is not possible so the maximum number of
seats available to the GNSO is seven. It
also seems that the reason the GNSO
representation has been called out is
related to the BC having two representatives
on the NomCom and the NPOC not being
represented.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Barbara, I believe you
expressed the view that the BC wants to
maintain two representatives and we were
waiting on a response to Ashley’s question
about the rationale for the original
decision to have two BC representatives. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">I believe we have four
options:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-m-5214802551620869261msolistparagraph"><span style="color:#1F497D">1.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">Reject the
proposed change to the bylaws in favour of
the status quo. This would require agreement
from all GNSO SGs/Cs.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-m-5214802551620869261msolistparagraph"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-m-5214802551620869261msolistparagraph"><span style="color:#1F497D">2.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">Agree to
the proposed change to the bylaws that
removes the prescriptive representation and
develop our own selection process. This
selection process could be the same that we
undertake now in selecting our respective
candidates and providing these to the
NomCom. The process could be added to the
GNSO Operating Procedures (I say this not
knowing what the process would be, but this
makes the most sense). However, we would
need to agree on the allocation of the seven
slots—the most pragmatic solution would be
to allocate a representative from each SG/C
of the GNSO.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-m-5214802551620869261msolistparagraph"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-m-5214802551620869261msolistparagraph"><span style="color:#1F497D">3.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">Suggest a
modification to the bylaws as currently
stated to include 1 representative from the
NPOC and reduce the BC representation from 2
to 1. We could also consider adding that in
the event the composition of the GNSO
changes that representation will be
reconsidered (or words to that effect).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-m-5214802551620869261msolistparagraph"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-m-5214802551620869261msolistparagraph"><span style="color:#1F497D">4.</span><span style="font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times
New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D">
</span><span style="color:#1F497D">Submit
individual responses to the NomCom RIWG
proposal and let them decide how to move
forward, which would likely leave us with
Option 2.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="gmail-m-5214802551620869261msolistparagraph"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Look forward to your
thoughts.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#1F497D">Donna</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>Recommendation
10: Representation on the NomCom should be
re-balanced immediately and then be reviewed
every five years.
</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Periodically
reviewing and re-balancing the NomCom makeup
ensures that it appropriately reflects the
ICANN community, both from a historic and
prospective vantage point. A recommendation on
a precise way to rebalance the NomCom would
require a comprehensive assessment of
representation within the ICANN community,
including a full understanding of the history
and possible future of representation within
the SOs/ACs. It will also require input from
the Board and the formation of a
cross-constituency working group which
includes representation from emerging
communities or groups within the ICANN
community. During our assessment, we heard
from a large number of individuals who
suggested the NomCom was unbalanced, both
across organizations and within organizations
(i.e., across constituencies within an SO/AC).
Not surprisingly, the opinions we heard varied
widely and were often inconsistent with each
other. For example, some people indicated that
one SO/AC was overrepresented in terms of the
number of delegates sent to the NomCom from
that SO/AC, while others thought such
representation was needed given the relatively
greater diversity of viewpoints held by
constituencies within that SO/AC compared to
other SOs/ACs. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Ultimately,
any rebalancing of the NomCom will require a
detailed assessment of all ICANN stakeholder
groups. ICANN should therefore convene a
working group immediately, and every five
years thereafter, to study how best to
rebalance the NomCom based on input from each
of the organizations with representation on
the NomCom and the broader ICANN community.
Our recommendation of five year intervals is
based on ICANN’s typical review requirements
for organizations, as well as our experience
with other similar, volunteer-based
organizations.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b>
Mary Wong [mailto:<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mary.wong@icann.org</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 29, 2020 1:19
PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Drazek, Keith <<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>>;
<a href="mailto:aheineman@godaddy.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">aheineman@godaddy.com</a>;
Austin, Donna <<a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" moz-do-not-send="true">Donna.Austin@team.neustar</a>>;
Selli, Claudia <<a href="mailto:claudia.selli@intl.att.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">claudia.selli@intl.att.com</a>>;
Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>>;
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben <<a href="mailto:wuknoben@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">wuknoben@gmail.com</a>>;
Dean Marks <<a href="mailto:ed4coa@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ed4coa@gmail.com</a>>;
Barbara Wanner <<a href="mailto:bwanner@uscib.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">bwanner@uscib.org</a>>;
Stephanie E Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@MAIL.UTORONTO.CA" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">stephanie.perrin@MAIL.UTORONTO.CA</a>>;
Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>>;
Joan Kerr <<a href="mailto:joankerr@fbsc.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">joankerr@fbsc.org</a>>;
<a href="mailto:jennifer.taylor@bt.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jennifer.taylor@bt.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Chantelle Doerksen <<a href="mailto:chantelle.doerksen@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">chantelle.doerksen@icann.org</a>>;
Carlos Reyes <<a href="mailto:carlos.reyes@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">carlos.reyes@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Following up: NomCom RIWG
call with GNSO community leaders (22 July
2020)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Dear
GNSO community leaders,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We
write to follow up on the call that you did
with Tom Barrett, Cheryl Langdon Orr and Zahid
Jamil (chairs of the NomCom Review
Implementation Working Group) last week. We
understand that many groups are continuing to
discuss the topic and may wish to communicate
individually with the NomCom RIWG. As members
of the Policy Team that supports your
governance work, however, we thought we should
ask if you would like us to convene a call for
you as GNSO community group leaders. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">We
ask also because the NomCom RIWG may be
expecting a response from the GNSO community
about their proposal to amend the Bylaws. In
addition, it may be helpful to see if there
are alternative options that you can suggest
to the RIWG for their consideration.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Please
let us know if you would like us to schedule a
call for you. We will also be grateful if you
can respond to Chantelle’s query (below) about
posting the materials from the call with Tom,
Cheryl and Zahid to the RIWG’s public mailing
list. Thank you!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Best
regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Chantelle,
Carlos & Mary
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Chantelle
Doerksen <<a href="mailto:chantelle.doerksen@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">chantelle.doerksen@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Thursday, July 23, 2020 at
18:14<br>
<b>To: </b>"Drazek, Keith" <<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:aheineman@godaddy.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">aheineman@godaddy.com</a>"
<<a href="mailto:aheineman@godaddy.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">aheineman@godaddy.com</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Donna.Austin@team.neustar</a>"
<<a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Donna.Austin@team.neustar</a>>,
"Selli, Claudia" <<a href="mailto:claudia.selli@intl.att.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">claudia.selli@intl.att.com</a>>,
Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>>,
Wolf-Ulrich Knoben <<a href="mailto:wuknoben@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">wuknoben@gmail.com</a>>,
Dean Marks <<a href="mailto:ed4coa@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ed4coa@gmail.com</a>>,
Barbara Wanner <<a href="mailto:bwanner@uscib.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">bwanner@uscib.org</a>>,
Stephanie E Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@MAIL.UTORONTO.CA" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">stephanie.perrin@MAIL.UTORONTO.CA</a>>,
Bruna Martins dos Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>>,
Joan Kerr <<a href="mailto:joankerr@fbsc.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">joankerr@fbsc.org</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:jennifer.taylor@bt.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jennifer.taylor@bt.com</a>"
<<a href="mailto:jennifer.taylor@bt.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jennifer.taylor@bt.com</a>>,
Tom Barrett <<a href="mailto:tbarrett@encirca.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">tbarrett@encirca.com</a>>,
Cheryl Langdon-Orr <<a href="mailto:langdonorr@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">langdonorr@gmail.com</a>>,
"<a href="mailto:internet@jamilandjamil.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">internet@jamilandjamil.com</a>"
<<a href="mailto:internet@jamilandjamil.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">internet@jamilandjamil.com</a>>,
Carlos Reyes <<a href="mailto:carlos.reyes@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">carlos.reyes@icann.org</a>>,
Lars Hoffmann <<a href="mailto:lars.hoffmann@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">lars.hoffmann@icann.org</a>>,
Jean-Baptiste Deroulez <<a href="mailto:jean-baptiste.deroulez@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jean-baptiste.deroulez@icann.org</a>>,
"Larisa B. Gurnick" <<a href="mailto:larisa.gurnick@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">larisa.gurnick@icann.org</a>>,
Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">mary.wong@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Chantelle Doerksen <<a href="mailto:chantelle.doerksen@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">chantelle.doerksen@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>NomComRIWG and GNSO SG/C
leadership call materials: attendance,
recording, chat | Wednesday, 22 July 2020</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Dear all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Below are the
call materials from the NomComRIWG and
GNSO SG/C leadership call held on
Wednesday, 22 July 2020.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Question:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> There is a
request to see if this group agrees to
share the enclosed call materials with the
entire NomComRIWG for their own
discussions, via posting the materials
below to the NomComRIWG’s public mailing
list.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Please let us
know what your thoughts are. Thank you in
advance.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Chantelle
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Attendance</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">: Ashley Heineman,
Barbara Wanner, Bruna Santos, Carlos Reyes,
Chantelle Doerksen, Cheryl Langdon-Orr,
Donna Austin, Heather Forrest, Jean-Baptiste
Deroulez, Jenn Taylor Hodges, Keith Drazek,
Lars Hoffmann, Marie-Noemie Marques, Mary
Wong, Tom Barrett, Wolf-Ulrich Knoben, Zahid
Jamil</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Zoom Recording:</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/rec/share/w9REDrH81VJLQKfgxB2ceJUcENvEaaa81yRNqfUFmhnVsyK_O90mtDdkHaSucEMi__;!!N14HnBHF!srNw9MopNTWMkjjG3V2vqAxXhxwbouy0YtBOYEpfcE119I7aLuE5gLDA_TI33N643-ck$" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://icann.zoom.us/rec/share/w9REDrH81VJLQKfgxB2ceJUcENvEaaa81yRNqfUFmhnVsyK_O90mtDdkHaSucEMi</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> <br>
<b>Chat:</b></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:02:37
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Good to go then</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:14:25
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : and the
Independent Examiner was noting the lack of
NPOC representation specifically</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:15:04
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : GNSO of course
still has the largest influence as such with
its 7 seats</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:15:34
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : next is 5 with
ALAC Regional interests</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:15:54
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : then the rest is
no more than 2</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:15:59
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : mostly 1</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:17:45
From Wolf-Ulrich Knoben : What is the
rationale for keeping the NCA number limited
by 19?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:18:45
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : it is an approved
recommendation of the Independent Examiner
@Wolf-Urlich
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:19:01
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : we mearly
Implement those Board approved
recommendations</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:19:07
From Wolf-Ulrich Knoben : Thanks Cheryl</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:19:12
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : NP</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:19:29
From Heather Forrest : Further to Donna's
point we do not have a mechanism for doing
this selection, and this is not within scope
of the GNSO Council (which is tasked with
managing the policy development process)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:19:32
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : That was the Ind
Examiners observation</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:19:50
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : perfect solution
@Donna</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:20:11
From Wolf-Ulrich Knoben : @Donna +1
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:20:27
From Mary Wong : @Heather, the distinction
with the Council’s remit is why the request
was addressed to the SG & C chairs, with
Keith (as GNSO Chair) cc’d for information.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:20:45
From Heather Forrest : Very much
appreciated, Mary</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:28:19
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : This was not a
negotiation we want your feedback however
specifically on the proposed bylaw language</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:28:45
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I was assuring you
we have explored as many possabilities as we
can</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:28:55
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : this leaves the
GNSO seat # as is</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:29:03
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : the most palatable
we felt</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:29:20
From Heather Forrest : Is there a documented
concern from GNSO (not from an outside
consultant) that the GNSO wants control? Or
that the GNSO SG/Cs themselves feel the need
for change?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:30:38
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : I believe the Ind
Examiners report was acting based
specifically on concerns or complaints from
part(s) of the GNSO</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:31:05
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : that documentation
can perhaps be sorced from MSSI</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:31:25
From Heather Forrest : @Cheryl - sorry to
push, but bylaws amendment means we need to
be more than just "I believe" - such a major
decision requires evidence-based decision
making</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:31:41
From Heather Forrest : I think we need to
chase the documentation down</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:32:19
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : ALSO note there
will be other bylaw changes required as a
result of our required Implementation of
these 27 Recs, so *IF* the Rec 10 results
in a Bylaws change it can go woth that set</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:32:23
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : with</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:33:12
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Correct @Kieth</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:34:27
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : It could rotate
all its seats or any combination therein
year by year if you so wish</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:34:52
From Mary Wong : @Heather, Policy staff will
consult with our MSSI colleagues regarding
the documentation you requested.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:35:05
From Barbara Wanner : Thanks Keith -- great
point about political sensitivities in light
of all that we must address now from a
policy standpoint.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:35:10
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : weunderstand the
friction point issue but US implementing a
change from the outside may have an effect
as well (I strongly suspect)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:35:31
From Jean-Baptiste Deroulez : As a follow-up
to Cheryl’s comment above, here is the link
to the independent examiner final report on
rec. 10: <a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/nomcom-review-final-05jun18-en.pdf__;!!N14HnBHF!srNw9MopNTWMkjjG3V2vqAxXhxwbouy0YtBOYEpfcE119I7aLuE5gLDA_TI33DcMTjEr$" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/nomcom-review-final-05jun18-en.pdf</a>
, see p25-26.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:35:45
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Thanks @JPD</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:36:20
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : JBD</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:37:11
From Heather Forrest : Thanks very much,
Jean-Baptiste. Is there "a comprehensive</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">assessment of
representation within the ICANN community,
including a full understanding of the</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">history and
possible future of representation within the
SOs/ACs" as per that recommendation 10 p 25?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:37:22
From Heather Forrest : Great question,
Donna, thank you</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:40:49
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : That COuld occur
at a future holistic ICANN wide review point
I suspect @Heather</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:41:07
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : we are trapped
between hstory and change</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:42:19
From Heather Forrest : My fault, Tom, for
not being more specific - sorry</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:43:13
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : and some of their
earlier presentations might also give
background as well, again MSSI have the
links to hand I suspect</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:43:54
From Heather Forrest : +1 Donna - likewise -
very much appreciate the additional
information</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:43:59
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Thanks everyone we
really appreciate al your time as well.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:44:24
From Barbara Wanner : Appreciate the time
you gave us to think this through further!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:44:29
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : We understand
@Donna</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:44:55
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : We thought not
@Donna</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:46:07
From Cheryl Langdon-Orr : Bye for now</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:46:07
From Barbara Wanner : @ Heather agree and
thank you!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:46:09
From Donna Austin, Neustar : Thanks all</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:46:09
From Ashley Heineman : thanks.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:46:10
From Heather Forrest : bye all, thank you</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:46:14
From Wolf-Ulrich Knoben : thanks and bye</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:46:19
From Jean-Baptiste Deroulez : Work of the
NomComRIWG can be followed here:
<a href="https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/community.icann.org/x/aBpIBg__;!!N14HnBHF!srNw9MopNTWMkjjG3V2vqAxXhxwbouy0YtBOYEpfcE119I7aLuE5gLDA_TI33JIYSDhW$" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
https://community.icann.org/x/aBpIBg</a>.
thank you.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">14:46:21
From Bruna Santos : thanks and byw</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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