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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">OK, lesson learned, Folly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Farell FOLLY<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 3, 2020 4:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Statement on the recent EC action<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">we can disagree, contradict but still be polite and not arrogant. It is in the interest of all.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If we cannot accept to be contradicted, we also have a problem.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">(Ekue) Farell FOLLY<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 3 Jun 2020, at 21:55, Thato Mfikwe <<a href="mailto:thatomfikwe@gmail.com">thatomfikwe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks Milton for the feedback,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I was surprised to see such engagement on the mailing list, also bearing in mind that this behavior is not new and there just needs to be the consistency of how rules are applied because some people still get away with name-calling, labeling,
and alienation of community members who voice out their concerns. The issue of non-participation is an excuse because even those who attempt to contribute to community activities are not given a break.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We just need to accept that the community is driven by members and nobody should be allowed to have special powers, active and non-active members must respect each other, I feel most for newcomers who will forever be traumatized by communique
between members, limiting their ability to participate in community activities. <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I believe everyone must do an introspection unless if we think we never wrong and our opinions are the only ones that count, the minority views need to also be taken into account because very few people currently and frequently participate
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<p class="MsoNormal">Respect for all members must be upheld and protected, am also willing to join a committee that looks at the disciplinary and mediation as this affects the entire community directly and indirectly. I still feel rules apply to a selected
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<p class="MsoNormal">We need to be honest with ourselves as a community to root out unwanted tendencies in the mailing list, it's unfortunate that not all members are free to express themselves in fear of victimization. I hope the incoming leadership will put
systems in place to ensure that unwarranted communication is dealt with promptly and effectively irrespective of where or who it comes from, IMHO, maybe my analysis might be wrong as I am also human. During elections, these kinds of engagements seem to repeat
themselves but there is no consistency in how issues are investigated and resolved.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 9:07 PM Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I want to address the conflict that took place on the list yesterday. I understand that the NCSG EC has acted promptly to remove the offending party from our list. This happened
without my request or participation; I did not even know it was happening until I saw these messages today. But I agree with the action. And I want to clarify my own position.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">In the past two days this person sent about 20 messages to the list. He began by attacking the integrity of our election process, and ended with incredible levels of name-calling,
threats and lies. He then started targeting me on twitter, claiming that I was a "racist." I am at a loss to find anything racial in my messages to him, or anywhere. I live in a majority-black city and have colleagues and close friends of many different races.
My wife is nonwhite. His constant repeating of that charge shows that he is deliberately publicizing a lie in order to gain undeserved sympathy or to attempt revenge. He has the gall to invoke "Black Lives Matter" in his tweets, as if he knew or cared anything
about the treatment of African-Americans by police in this country. I am frankly disgusted by people who try to exploit racial tensions in this way, especially at this time.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">If one looks into this person's background one has to question
<b>why he was here in the first place</b>. He runs a commercial marketing company in India. His label on his emails openly tout his status as a commercial CEO. In response to Carlos Afonso he claimed to run nonprofits but he didn't name them. His LinkedIn page
does not mention any nonprofits. We find that he is also a functionary for India's BJP party, which promotes
<a href="https://www.hrw.org/report/2020/04/10/shoot-traitors/discrimination-against-muslims-under-indias-new-citizenship-policy" target="_blank">
citizenship policies that discriminate against Muslims</a>. He has been <a href="https://archive.siasat.com/news/bjp-member-vaibhav-outrageously-ridicules-female-journalist-national-tv-1364183/" target="_blank">
called out for insulting women</a> in political debate. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">In sum, while I do accept responsibility for triggering the conflict I have to stand by my original message, which challenged his repetitive and barely comprehensible attacks on
our process in a way that was not constructive. While the ensuing conflict was unpleasant, we are better off that this person's character was revealed and he was shown the door. It is clear that we were dealing with a bully who was not here to help support
NCSG in ICANN.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I thank the EC for quick action and apologize for the distraction during our election process.<o:p></o:p></p>
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