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Tapani is right: There is no rule which would block to serve in multiple positions. However, I would NOT recommend to serve in multiple positions. Do not underestimate the work load which comes with each position. The risk is high that you loose focus and are unable to deliver what is needed. This is in particular true for the new ICANN (3.0) after the IANA transition with its new complexity. My recent experience with ATRT3 is: 61 Telcos (2 - 3 hours each, very often during night time), four F2F meetings (19 days meetings and travel), 360 pages final text (with and endless series of drafts before the final version was ready for adoption) within ONE year.
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The way forward is to have a more efficient mechanism of enhanced communication among the various positions holders within the NCSG.
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My 2c.
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I was asked if it is possible to run for multiple positions at the
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same time in NCSG/NCUC/NPOC elections.
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As far as I can tell there's no rule against it, but there are
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better rule-readers than me here (hi Amr) so...
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This is not purely theoretical, even though it is not
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relevant to the present elections, and it would be good
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to be clear about it well before the next round.
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And this is a good time to collect all things that might
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cause problems in elections, loopholes that should be closed &c.
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After the elections are over nobody will have energy to think
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about them.
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Note, the question is about running for the positions, not about
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serving in them at the same time: that is a separate issue
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(interesting in its own right to be sure).
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That is, one could run for several positions and, if elected
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to more than one, choose one of them at that point.
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And I'm not talking about whether or not it would be a good idea,
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but about what current rules actually say about it. (We might
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end up wanting to change them, but that's for later.)
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There are a few distinct cases:
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First, running for Council (or NCSG Chair) and either
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As far as I can see the three elections are formally distinct
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so one could indeed run in them all.
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In the past when the elections were ran at different times one could
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resign from the previously-held position upon being elected to a new
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one, but now when they're simultaneous the situation at least feels
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different (and may even formally be in some cases).
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Second, running for positions in both NCUC and NPOC.
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There's clearly no rule against that, indeed there's precedent
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in even serving in both at once.
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Third, could one run for both Council and NCSG Chair at
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the same time? I don't see any rule against that either.
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Fourth, running simultaneously for NCUC EC and NCUC Chair, or NPOC
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ExCom and NPOC Chair, or for multiple positions in NPOC ExCom
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(theoretically possible unlike in NCUC, where they're tied to
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NPOC does have a rule excluding councillors from ExCom and people from
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holding multiple ExCom positions at the same time, but it is not clear
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that it applies to *running* for them at the same time (arguably it
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could be so read though).
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NCUC doesn't seem to have such rules at all, although NCUC bylaws
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implicitly prevent NCUC Chair from being a regional representative at
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the same time and (less clearly) NCSG Chair as well, but I see nothing
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explicit there against councillors being EC members, let alone against
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running for both.
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NCSG likewise: there's certainly no rule against NCSG EC members being
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also constituency ExCom/EC members or Chairs (indeed it has happened
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quite often in the past), but I can't see any rule against a
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constituency EC member being NCSG Chair either, or even a councillor
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being NCSG Chair. Even if some such limitations could be implied, I
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don't see anything there either against running for multiple positions
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like that, with the intent of serving only in one.
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Have I missed or misread something?
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