<html><head></head><body>Hi Liz,<div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Again…, I’m not attempting to manipulate the elections. I don’t know why you say that it is clear that I am. If you’d clarify your concerns, I’d be happy to respond.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">I’m not arguing the merits or lack thereof of any diversity rules. Like others, I don’t believe this is the right time to do so. As I’ve said, I’m only trying to explain the interpretation of the Bylaws as I understand them.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">I may disagree with Tapani’s interpretation, and he may disagree with mine, but I’m engaging with him in this discussion in good faith, as I am sure he is too. Apart from having concerns over me possibly seeking to manipulate the elections, is there anything in the substance of what I said that you agree or disagree with?</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Thanks.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Amr<br class=""/><div><br class=""/><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 2, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Liz Orembo <<a href="mailto:lizorembo@gmail.com" class="">lizorembo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"/><div class="">
<div dir="ltr" class="">To bring this up at the close of the nomination process is a clear manipulation of the election. If someone really wanted gender diversity they would have encouraged people to come out and run for elections from the period of nomination.<div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">I am for gender and regional diversity, but what I see here is a play where people depend on election technicalities and loopholes to get their favourite candidates. And then we are here wondering why people are not volunteering to run?</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">We cant be that group of civil societies calling for accountability within ICANN if we can't even manage straight elections. Lets give this process the seriousness it deserves.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div></div><br class=""/><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 1:27 PM Amr Elsadr <<a href="mailto:aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja" class="">aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja</a>> wrote:<br class=""/></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="">Hi,<br class=""/><div class=""><br class=""/><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 2, 2020, at 6:29 AM, Tapani Tarvainen <<a href="mailto:ncsg@TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO" target="_blank" class="">ncsg@TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""/></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">[SNIP]</div><br class=""/><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""/>Second, the one-year term does not count in term limit in this case,<br class=""/>as per ICANN Bylaws 11.3(b). That is, whoever gets it may be elected<br class=""/>twice after that for a total of five years, whereas those who get two<br class=""/>years now can only do only one additional term for a total of four<br class=""/>years (absent special circumstances we discussed with Amr earlier,<br class=""/>which could allow an extra term in either case).<br class=""/></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">I don’t believe this is correct. Only those selected/appointed to fill a vacancy fit the scenario you’re describing here, Tapani. So, for example, Juan was appointed to fill a vacancy on Council. The time he served does not count toward his two consecutive terms limit, and he may run for a full Council term now (or a one-year term depending on the number of votes he gets), and if elected, may run for a second full term in two years time.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Whoever gets elected to fill the leftover 1-year period has this 1-year term count towards the two consecutive term limit, so will have a maximum possibility of three consecutive years on Council, instead of four (not five instead of four).</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">The relevant language in the Bylaws says:</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class=""><i class=""><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="">"Except in a "special circumstance," such as, but not limited to, meeting geographic or other diversity requirements defined in the Stakeholder Group charters, where no alternative representative is available to serve, no Council member may be selected to serve more than two consecutive terms, in such a special circumstance a Council member may serve one additional term. <b class=""><u class="">For these purposes, a person selected to fill a vacancy in a term shall not be deemed to have served that term.</u></b> A former Council member who has served two consecutive terms must remain out of office for one full term prior to serving any subsequent term as Council member. A "special circumstance" is defined in the </span><abbr title="Generic Names Supporting Organization" style="box-sizing:border-box;unicode-bidi:bidi-override;direction:ltr;border-bottom:1px dotted rgb(153,153,153);color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px" class="">GNSO</abbr></i><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""><i class=""> Operating Procedures."</i> [emphasis added]</span></div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">An elected Councilor is not filling a vacant seat. The seat is his or hers once elected. Vacant seats are filled by selection/appointment, not by election. A “vacancy” on the GNSO Council is defined in Article 11.3(c) of the ICANN Bylaws.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Thanks.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Amr</div></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear="all" class=""/><div class=""><br class=""/></div>-- <br class=""/><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class=""/><div class=""><font style="font-family:"comic sans ms",sans-serif" size="2" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" class="">Best regards.<br class=""/>
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