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<p>Everyone, <br>
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We are substantially past the useful life of this thread. <br>
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People whose behavior was found to be in violation of the NCSG
Charter have been contacted personally. <br>
<br>
We would kindly ask you to refrain from any further replies in
this thread, and to generally maintain all discussions of
electoral matters strictly within the remit of the standards of
behavior spelled out in the Charter.<br>
<br>
Thank you for your cooperation,<br>
<br>
Stephanie Perrin, on behalf of the NCSG EC <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2020-06-02 5:55 p.m., Joan Kerr
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Vaibhav,
please understand that it is a good thing that we debate
issues, or question decisions However, it is still expected
that we behave cordially and professionally as well.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">As
a member of NCSG, I feel that embarrassing our members with a
tweet, and threatening a member is in bad taste. It is a very
hard time for volunteers, trying to accomplish the heavy load
to also be exposed to threats and embarrassment. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">I
agree with debates, even heated ones, threats no.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Regards,</div>
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PM Vaibhav Aggarwal <<a href="mailto:va@bladebrains.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">va@bladebrains.com</a>>
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<div dir="auto">Dear Barina,
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<div>Remember - for you and all on the list - Dissent is
the form the value of any debate, not culling of the
voice by threatening. I take offense that Muller
threatens me on the list. As a leader, management of
dissent is ur utmost priority in Chairing a Volunteer
Group - U r not the only volunteer, everyone are
including me, especially those who don’t use the
resources of the group to further their personal
agendas. </div>
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<div>I will await your action on my complaint - 2 of them.
This is serious offense - either in the nature of the
group or any law of the land. And if u support reckless
behavior - then god be with you !</div>
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<div>Regards </div>
<div>Vaibhav Aggarwal<br>
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Vaibhav Aggarwal <<a href="mailto:va@bladebrains.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">va@bladebrains.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">As the chair, I do not appreciate your
response.
<div>As a Chair, I demand a Public apology from
Muller for degrading the discourse and targeting
me. In my opinion it is racist behavior and I feel
hurt. </div>
<div>Please consider this as lodging a formal
complaint. </div>
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<div>Muller or any other member, does not have a
right to be disrespectful and absolute degrading
in his / her Communication’s. A</div>
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<div>Secondly, </div>
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<div>I have kept the discourse limited to words that
make absolute sense. The are points of
discussions, violations that I pointed out and so
did many others and it is a healthy discussion.
For eg. Quite a few members have travelled, as per
rules, (we are talking of rules) why there aren’t
any reports filed ? I want to know - isn’t that
part of governance ? Just one point - aren’t we
all talking about procedures ? </div>
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<div>It will be great if u would, as a Chair take
responsibility & instead of writing to me -
singling me out, why don’t we talk of the points I
have highlighted. I’d like to keep the discourse
aligned to policy intervention not schooling.</div>
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<div>Thanks & regards</div>
<div>-VA</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hey Vaibhav,<br>
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I find it very unfortunate to see this level
of discourse here. After all the Meet the
Candidates calls it was clear to us all how
important it was to foster a good
environment on the lists just so all our
members felt ok with giving in their
opinions and so on. <br>
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Of course debates can get very heated at
times, but it is important to operate in
such lists bearing in mind the expected
standards of behavior and also reminding to
keep some level of civility with our
colleagues. But I would also like to remind
you that we are the ones responsible on
whether a conversation can remain within the
lines of a civil yet heated discussion or if
it goes down the path of accusations.<br>
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So, for next time, it might be good to keep
in mind that we are all volunteers here and
very committed to the things we discuss. And
this level of accusations wont take us
anywhere. <br>
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<div>Best regards, </div>
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<div>Bruna Santos<br>
NCUC Chair<br>
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Jun 2, 2020 at 2:22 PM Mueller, Milton L
<<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">milton@gatech.edu</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I
have no idea what GIT is, but if
you start reporting people to
ICANN be assured that your message
below is a clear violation of
ICANN’s expected standards of
behavior, so you may just end up
ejecting yourself from our midst.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Cheers,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">--MM</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> Vaibhav Aggarwal,
Catalyst & Group CEO <<a href="mailto:va@bladebrains.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">va@bladebrains.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 2,
2020 11:49 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mueller, Milton L
<<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">milton@gatech.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: NCSG
Election Clarifications</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Muller,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Watch it - Dont
cross it - </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Responding to
your Imbecile self is beneath me -
for the sake for my respect for
everyone on the list - Your talk
is baseless, Senseless. And Before
you open your heart to type
Gibberish - here on the list -
Disrespect everyone else, Look me
up who I am - I will not just
report you to the GIT in the USA
but to ICANN also, </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You will have
to tender an Apology in Public if
I was to make it an issue. So stay
the Hell in your LIMITS. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You sound
Racist and trust me - I have dealt
with quite a few and fixed them
too. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-VA</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jun 2,
2020, at 8:51 PM, Mueller,
Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@GATECH.EDU" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">milton@GATECH.EDU</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Stop
talking nonsense. Pay
attention to the facts.
The problem here is not
that “veterans” are
picking their
successors, or we are
being “undemocratic.”
The problem is these two
things:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">1)</span><span style="font-size:7pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <span> </span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">There
is a rule that requires
that no less than 2 of
the 6 councilors will be
women,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">2)</span><span style="font-size:7pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <span> </span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Only
one woman was running
for the second position
our rules require be
occupied by a female.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Therefore,
as a simple matter of
logic, that one woman
will be elected.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">This
has been explained
several times. What do
you not understand about
this? The rule is
clearly stated in the
charter. Unless your
goal is to needlessly
divide people, please
make sure that all your
comments about the
election reflect these
facts. IF you don’t
like the rule (I think
it is badly formulated)
work to change it.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Dr.
Milton L Mueller</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Georgia
Institute of Technology</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">School
of Public Policy</span></p>
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Governance Project</span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Vaibhav Aggarwal,
Catalyst & Group
CEO <</span><a href="mailto:va@bladebrains.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">va@bladebrains.com</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">><span> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Tuesday,
June 2, 2020 10:45
AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span> </span>Mueller,
Milton L <</span><a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">milton@gatech.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">><br>
<b>Cc:</b><span> </span></span><a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re:
NCSG Election
Clarifications</span></p>
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what good but Muller - IF
there are 100 people who
vote - and 50 abstain - 30
Vote - Where are the
ratios ? How can you call
that an Election ? Where
is the purpose of
elections - Why to waste
everybody’s time - Let
Tapani or Robin and a Few
Vetrans in the policy work
choose who their
successors will be - let
it be nomination by wise
people. </p>
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