<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Dear Barina, <div><br></div><div>Remember - for you and all on the list - Dissent is the form the value of any debate, not culling of the voice by threatening. I take offense that Muller threatens me on the list. As a leader, management of dissent is ur utmost priority in Chairing a Volunteer Group - U r not the only volunteer, everyone are including me, especially those who don’t use the resources of the group to further their personal agendas. </div><div><br></div><div>I will await your action on my complaint - 2 of them. This is serious offense - either in the nature of the group or any law of the land. And if u support reckless behavior - then god be with you !</div><div><br></div><div>Regards </div><div>Vaibhav Aggarwal<br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted. </div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jun 3, 2020, at 12:23 AM, Vaibhav Aggarwal <va@bladebrains.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">As the chair, I do not appreciate your response. <div>As a Chair, I demand a Public apology from Muller for degrading the discourse and targeting me. In my opinion it is racist behavior and I feel hurt. </div><div>Please consider this as lodging a formal complaint. </div><div><br></div><div>Muller or any other member, does not have a right to be disrespectful and absolute degrading in his / her Communication’s. A</div><div><br></div><div>Secondly, </div><div><br></div><div>I have kept the discourse limited to words that make absolute sense. The are points of discussions, violations that I pointed out and so did many others and it is a healthy discussion. For eg. Quite a few members have travelled, as per rules, (we are talking of rules) why there aren’t any reports filed ? I want to know - isn’t that part of governance ? Just one point - aren’t we all talking about procedures ? </div><div><br></div><div>It will be great if u would, as a Chair take responsibility & instead of writing to me - singling me out, why don’t we talk of the points I have highlighted. I’d like to keep the discourse aligned to policy intervention not schooling.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks & regards</div><div>-VA</div><div><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my mobile device. Typos regretted. </div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Jun 2, 2020, at 11:19 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hey Vaibhav,<br><br>I find it very unfortunate to see this level of discourse here. After all the Meet the Candidates calls it was clear to us all how important it was to foster a good environment on the lists just so all our members felt ok with giving in their opinions and so on. <br><br>Of course debates can get very heated at times, but it is important to operate in such lists bearing in mind the expected standards of behavior and also reminding to keep some level of civility with our colleagues. But I would also like to remind you that we are the ones responsible on whether a conversation can remain within the lines of a civil yet heated discussion or if it goes down the path of accusations.<br><br>So, for next time, it might be good to keep in mind that we are all volunteers here and very committed to the things we discuss. And this level of accusations wont take us anywhere. <br><div><br></div><div>Best regards, </div><div><br></div><div>Bruna Santos<br>NCUC Chair<br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 2:22 PM Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu">milton@gatech.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="gmail-m_3572100936202581202apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, June 2, 2020 10:45 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="gmail-m_3572100936202581202apple-converted-space"> </span>Mueller, Milton L <</span><a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">milton@gatech.edu</span></a><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">><br>
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<b>Subject:</b><span class="gmail-m_3572100936202581202apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: NCSG Election Clarifications</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><b><i>Bruna Martins dos Santos </i></b></div><div><br></div><div><div>Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos<br></div><div>@boomartins<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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