<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I agree with you Grace. The procedures mentioned and discussed and suited to the needs of the Adopting EC back then, is totally flawed and in contravention of all existing principles of Democratic process existing anywhere in this planet. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My Observations : </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In all of ICANN Groups : </div><div class="">1.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>We are the Least Funded;</div><div class="">2.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Least Heard;</div><div class="">3.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Least Noticed;</div><div class="">4.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Least relevant;</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There has to be a reason for that. I reckon, we should establish a separate task force to identify the gaps there in and present it for the entire group for thinking about it and then the group should take it upon themselves to fix this in the shortest time period in order to attain value for the energy a lot of the founders and first leaders spent on putting this together. It must not have been easy for them. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">--------------</div><div class="">-Vaibhav Aggarwal</div><div class="">Twitter : @TheVaibhavAg</div><div class="">Facebook : @Vaibhavtiger</div><div class="">Youtube : @+VaibhavAggarwalIndia</div><div class="">Linkedin : <a href="http://Linkedin.com/in/vaibhavbb" class="">Linkedin.com/in/vaibhavbb</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 2, 2020, at 4:28 PM, Grace Githaiga <<a href="mailto:ggithaiga@HOTMAIL.COM" class="">ggithaiga@HOTMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class="">Interesting debate! These clarifications are good as they help in scrutinizing and understanding of the bylaws. We are seeing different interpretations mostly trying to justify positions that the different people are taking. It would be important not to bend them just to suit what we want. </div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br class=""></div><div id="Signature" class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" dir="ltr" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">----------------------------------------------------------------------------------</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><b class="">Grace Githaiga</b></span><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Twitter: @ggithaiga</span><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">Skype: gracegithaiga</span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Linkedin: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracegithaiga" class="OWAAutoLink">https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracegithaiga</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85); font-family: "PT Sans", arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" class="">.<span style="color: rgb(0, 111, 201);" class=""><i class=""><span style="color: rgb(75, 165, 36);" class="">.</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 111, 201);" class=""><b class="">.</b></span></i></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 111, 201); font-family: "PT Sans", arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;" class=""><b class=""><i class="">the most important office in a democracy is the citizen. So, you see, that’s what our democracy demands. It needs you!----Barrack Obama.</i></b></span></span><br class=""></div></div></div></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div id="appendonsend" class=""></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" class=""><br class=""></div><hr tabindex="-1" style="display: inline-block; width: 1061.328125px;" class=""><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NCSG-Discuss <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" class="">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>> on behalf of Amr Elsadr <<a href="mailto:aelsadr@ICANNPOLICY.NINJA" class="">aelsadr@ICANNPOLICY.NINJA</a>><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>02 June 2020 1:26 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" class="">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" class="">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: NCSG Election Clarifications</font><div class=""> </div></div><div class="">Hi,<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 2, 2020, at 6:29 AM, Tapani Tarvainen <<a href="mailto:ncsg@TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO" class="">ncsg@TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO</a>> wrote:</div><br class="x_Apple-interchange-newline"></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">[SNIP]</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class="">Second, the one-year term does not count in term limit in this case,<br class="">as per ICANN Bylaws 11.3(b). That is, whoever gets it may be elected<br class="">twice after that for a total of five years, whereas those who get two<br class="">years now can only do only one additional term for a total of four<br class="">years (absent special circumstances we discussed with Amr earlier,<br class="">which could allow an extra term in either case).<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I don’t believe this is correct. Only those selected/appointed to fill a vacancy fit the scenario you’re describing here, Tapani. So, for example, Juan was appointed to fill a vacancy on Council. The time he served does not count toward his two consecutive terms limit, and he may run for a full Council term now (or a one-year term depending on the number of votes he gets), and if elected, may run for a second full term in two years time.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Whoever gets elected to fill the leftover 1-year period has this 1-year term count towards the two consecutive term limit, so will have a maximum possibility of three consecutive years on Council, instead of four (not five instead of four).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The relevant language in the Bylaws says:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><i class=""><span class="" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">"Except in a "special circumstance," such as, but not limited to, meeting geographic or other diversity requirements defined in the Stakeholder Group charters, where no alternative representative is available to serve, no Council member may be selected to serve more than two consecutive terms, in such a special circumstance a Council member may serve one additional term.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class=""><u class="">For these purposes, a person selected to fill a vacancy in a term shall not be deemed to have served that term.</u></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>A former Council member who has served two consecutive terms must remain out of office for one full term prior to serving any subsequent term as Council member. A "special circumstance" is defined in the </span><abbr title="Generic Names Supporting Organization" class="" style="box-sizing: border-box; unicode-bidi: bidi-override; direction: ltr; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(153, 153, 153); color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">GNSO</abbr></i><span class="" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><i class=""> Operating Procedures."</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[emphasis added]</span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">An elected Councilor is not filling a vacant seat. The seat is his or hers once elected. Vacant seats are filled by selection/appointment, not by election. A “vacancy” on the GNSO Council is defined in Article 11.3(c) of the ICANN Bylaws.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Amr</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>