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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">To be frank it would have been great to see all the folks who are suddenly out on the list now calling for reforms to have nominated themselves for leadership positions in the election,
its easy to raise points on the list here, however when it comes to working on things at ICANN we always seem to come up short on folks willing to actually put in the work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">James Gannon</span></b><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">NCSG-Discuss <NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU> on behalf of "Vaibhav Aggarwal, Catalyst & Group CEO" <va@BLADEBRAINS.COM><br>
<b>Reply to: </b>"Vaibhav Aggarwal, Catalyst & Group CEO" <va@BLADEBRAINS.COM><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 2 June 2020 at 12:07<br>
<b>To: </b>"NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" <NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: NCSG Election Clarifications<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I agree with you Grace. The procedures mentioned and discussed and suited to the needs of the Adopting EC back then, is totally flawed and in contravention of all existing principles of Democratic process existing anywhere in this planet. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In all of ICANN Groups : <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1.<span class="apple-tab-span"> </span>We are the Least Funded;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2.<span class="apple-tab-span"> </span>Least Heard;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There has to be a reason for that. I reckon, we should establish a separate task force to identify the gaps there in and present it for the entire group for thinking about it and then the group should take it upon themselves to fix this
in the shortest time period in order to attain value for the energy a lot of the founders and first leaders spent on putting this together. It must not have been easy for them. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Vaibhav Aggarwal<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Twitter : @TheVaibhavAg<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Facebook : @Vaibhavtiger<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Youtube : @+VaibhavAggarwalIndia<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Linkedin : <a href="http://Linkedin.com/in/vaibhavbb">Linkedin.com/in/vaibhavbb</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Jun 2, 2020, at 4:28 PM, Grace Githaiga <<a href="mailto:ggithaiga@HOTMAIL.COM">ggithaiga@HOTMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Interesting debate! These clarifications are good as they help in scrutinizing and understanding of the bylaws. We are seeing different interpretations mostly trying to justify positions that the different
people are taking. It would be important not to bend them just to suit what we want. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Grace Githaiga</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Twitter: @ggithaiga<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Linkedin: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracegithaiga">https://www.linkedin.com/in/gracegithaiga</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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most important office in a democracy is the citizen. So, you see, that’s what our democracy demands. It needs you!----Barrack Obama.</span></i></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>NCSG-Discuss <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>> on behalf of Amr Elsadr <<a href="mailto:aelsadr@ICANNPOLICY.NINJA">aelsadr@ICANNPOLICY.NINJA</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>02 June 2020 1:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: NCSG Election Clarifications<span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">On Jun 2, 2020, at 6:29 AM, Tapani Tarvainen <<a href="mailto:ncsg@TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO">ncsg@TAPANI.TARVAINEN.INFO</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Second, the one-year term does not count in term limit in this case,<br>
as per ICANN Bylaws 11.3(b). That is, whoever gets it may be elected<br>
twice after that for a total of five years, whereas those who get two<br>
years now can only do only one additional term for a total of four<br>
years (absent special circumstances we discussed with Amr earlier,<br>
which could allow an extra term in either case).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">I don’t believe this is correct. Only those selected/appointed to fill a vacancy fit the scenario you’re describing here, Tapani. So, for example, Juan was appointed to fill a vacancy
on Council. The time he served does not count toward his two consecutive terms limit, and he may run for a full Council term now (or a one-year term depending on the number of votes he gets), and if elected, may run for a second full term in two years time.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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on Council, instead of four (not five instead of four).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#333333;background:white">"Except in a "special circumstance," such as, but not limited to, meeting geographic or other diversity requirements defined in the Stakeholder Group
charters, where no alternative representative is available to serve, no Council member may be selected to serve more than two consecutive terms, in such a special circumstance a Council member may serve one additional term.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><b><u>For
these purposes, a person selected to fill a vacancy in a term shall not be deemed to have served that term.</u></b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>A former Council member who has served two consecutive terms must remain out of office for one full
term prior to serving any subsequent term as Council member. A "special circumstance" is defined in the </span></i><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">GNSO</span></i><i><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#333333;background:white"> Operating
Procedures."</span></i><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#333333;background:white"> </span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:#333333;background:white">[emphasis added]</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">An elected Councilor is not filling a vacant seat. The seat is his or hers once elected. Vacant seats are filled by selection/appointment, not by election. A “vacancy” on the GNSO Council
is defined in Article 11.3(c) of the ICANN Bylaws.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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