<html><head></head><body>Hi,<div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Thanks for organizing this, Kathy. I watched the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEDeQt-gJNQ&feature=youtu.be" class="">YouTube recording</a> of the discussion. Unfortunately, audio wasn’t great throughout much of the discussion, but the parts that were clear were quite interesting; particularly those parts presented by Professor Benjamin Leff on the legal issues concerning the indirect change of control of the .org Registry.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Professor Leff’s contributions illustrated some legal dimensions to the sale, which to my knowledge have not been described publicly in much detail until this panel held its discussion. For those interested, I’d recommend putting some time aside to watch it.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">I wonder if Benjamin Leff might be persuaded to write up a blog on his insight on the intersection between the sale of PIR and US/Pennsylvania law regarding non-profit organizations? Would be a helpful resource to circulate to interested parties.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Thanks again, Kathy.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Amr<br class=""/><div><br class=""/><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 7, 2020, at 12:13 AM, Kathy Kleiman <<a href="mailto:kathy@DNRC.TECH" class="">kathy@DNRC.TECH</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"/><div class="">
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</span></div><p style="text-align:center" align="center" class=""><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Book
Antiqua",serif;color:#3F7E9D;background:white" class="">On
November 13,
2019, the
Internet Society
(ISOC) announced
its sale of the
Public Interest
Registry (PIR)
to a private
equity firm
Ethos Capital
for $1.1
billion. The
.ORG registry,
run by PIR,
supports 10
million .ORG
registrants,
including many
of the world’s
largest and
smallest human
rights and
nonprofit
groups. Can a
nonprofit (ISOC)
sell a nonprofit
(PIR)? Are
top-level
domains still
global public
resources? What
can ISOC and PIR
do to protect
the online
communication of
millions of .ORG
registrants?
What mechanisms
could exist to
address concerns
of the .ORG
community? The
answers could
profoundly
affect Internet
speech for
decades to come.</span><span style="font-size:16.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3F7E9D" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p style="text-align:center" align="center" class=""><span style="font-size:16.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3F7E9D" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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Antiqua",serif;color:#3F7E9D" class="">Andrew
Sullivan</span></strong><span style="font-size:16.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3F7E9D" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p style="text-align:center" align="center" class=""><em class=""><span style="font-size:16.5pt;font-family:"Book
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& CEO,
Internet
Society</span></em><span style="font-size:16.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3F7E9D" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p style="text-align:center" align="center" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size:16.5pt;font-family:"Book
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</span></b><em class=""><span style="font-size:16.5pt;font-family:"Book
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Staff
Attorney,
Electronic
Frontier
Foundation</span></em><span style="font-size:16.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3F7E9D" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p style="text-align:center" align="center" class=""><strong class=""><span style="font-size:16.5pt;font-family:"Book
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</span></b><em class=""><span style="font-size:16.5pt;font-family:"Book
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IP & Tech
Clinic,
Washington
College of Law
and Former
Director of
Policy, Public
Interest
Registry
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