<div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks Caleb.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>Joan<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 1:10 AM Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>thanks Caleb for the input, we will try to include those comments to the draft.</div><div><br></div><div>Best.</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le ven. 7 févr. 2020 à 13:58, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <<a href="mailto:muyiwacaleb@gmail.com" target="_blank">muyiwacaleb@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Hello Joan, Muriel and Rafik, <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Tried to access the document but having troubles with the Google doc app on my phone so will post directly here on behalf of some NPOC members who have raised some valid concerns. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">However, see this as a contribution from NPOC members to this comment. Please find below some observations from our members. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Some of the the dates do not put into consideration some religious concerns. Such concerns such as Ramadan, sukkot/Shmini Atzeret /Dawil for other years. </div><div dir="auto">Further observations are stated below :</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><p>The main observations are that in moving the AGM Meeting from Late October/Early November in an effort to put several weeks distance between the IETF and the ICANN Meetings, they have created conflicts with Jewish Religious Holidays where there had been none and also conflicts with DIWALI and other holidays. This time, late October/early November is usually a good time free of conflicts and moving it up the middle of October runs into many conflicts. While it would be desirable not to have the ICANN meetings so close to the IETF ones, moving ICANN meeting dates up appear to disregard important holidays and religious days. In any event, IETF meeting attendees tend to travel immediately from the ICANN meeting to the IETF Meeting as they have done in the past.</p><p>2) the March Meetings in 2024 and 2026 these are in conflict with the celebration of Ramadan. ICANN Org needs to understand and note this conflict<br></p><p>3) There is a special call for attention to the Public Comments and statements ICANN has made in the Multistakeholder Model Plan where they acknowledge the difficulty in getting new people to join and engage within ICANN and to increase the diversity of participants. The Multistakeholder Model Work Plan takes note of a concern about whether ICANN has developed pathways to enable effective participation. One of the more practical ways for ICANN to facilitate participation is for ICANN Org, to be more aware of and to avoid clashing with important holidays and religious days observed by volunteers who work countless hours to improve ICANN’s multistakeholder advisory work. By avoiding these dates as much as possible it is showing all volunteers that ICANN ORG understands their concerns and does its best to avoid conflicts.</p></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Some of their <b>recommendations</b> include the following :<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">For September 2022, we suggest that these meeting dates be moved a full two or three weeks later, at the end of October when the AGM has traditionally occurred in order to avoid clashing with a Jewish Holiday.</div><div dir="auto"> </div><div dir="auto">For October 2024, it is unclear why we are having the AGM during these dates when they conflict both with a Jewish Holiday and with the EURO IX forum. Moving these by one week would be considered ideal. Having the meeting start on a Sunday instead of Saturday would be best as the Jewish Holidays end the evening of Friday, October 25.</div><div dir="auto"> </div><div dir="auto">For March 2025, ICANN Org needs to consider that this meeting conflicts with Ramadan, which lasts the entire month of March if these dates are to be retained as is. Passover is Friday, April 11 and Good Friday is April 18</div><div dir="auto"> </div><div dir="auto">For March 2026, ICANN Org needs to consider that this meeting conflicts with Ramadan which is from February 18-March 19 and moving it is tricky because of the upcoming Passover and Easter celebrations, which are Passover (March 31)/Easter periods (Good Friday is April 1). As an added wrinkle, IETF is from March 14-20.</div><div dir="auto"> </div><div dir="auto">For October 2027, this meeting falls during the Jewish Holiday of Sukkot/Shemini Atzeret (Eighth Day of Solemn Assembly/Simchat Torah) which could be avoided by moving it two weeks earlier making it back-to-back with the IETF meeting.</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br><br><div dir="auto">Caleb Ogundele<br><br>________________<br><br>Sent with thumbs from a small screen mobile device. <br><br>Pelase exsuce typos adn errosr.</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 6, 2020, 5:01 PM Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks Joan for the draft.</div><div>@all please review the comment. it is quite short and it is about sharing any concerns about the ICANN meeting suggested dates.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le ven. 7 févr. 2020 à 00:43, Joan katambi <<a href="mailto:joanhopek@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">joanhopek@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">
<div>Dear NCSG, </div><div><br></div><div>
Murie
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on a proposed NCSG input to the Proposed Dates for ICANN Public Meetings 2024-2028 and Revised Dates in 2022 Draft Report and we would like to submit it for your review. <br></div><div><br></div><div>comments and suggestions are well come till 8th February 2020.</div><div><br></div><div>
<div>We created this google doc to be used during the drafting: </div><div><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KGOp3xTZy89XwLy8vtljJzy4_zmE4z9fVMtwl5awaeI/edit?folder=0AMJI0CB4QegiUk9PVA" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KGOp3xTZy89XwLy8vtljJzy4_zmE4z9fVMtwl5awaeI/edit?folder=0AMJI0CB4QegiUk9PVA</a></div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>Katambi Joan<br></div>
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