<div dir="ltr">Very much agree with you Sam and Milton.<div>ICANN needs to trade cautiously on the red lines. <br><div><br></div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><div><b>WISDOM DONKOR</b><br></div><div><font size="1">President & CEO</font></div><div><font size="1">Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation</font></div><div><font size="1">P.O. Box CT 2439, Cantonments, Accra | <a href="http://www.aodirf.org" target="_blank">www.aodirf.org</a> / <a href="http://www.afrigeocon.org" target="_blank">www.afrigeocon.org</a> </font></div><div><font size="1">Tel: +233 20 812 8851</font></div><div><font size="1">Skype: wisdom_dk | Facebook: kwasi wisdom | Twitter: @wisdom_dk </font></div><div>__________________________________________________</div><div><font size="1">Specialization:</font></div><div><font size="1">E-government Network Infrastructure and E-application, Internet Governance, Open Data policies platforms & Community Development, Cyber Security, Domain Name Systems, Software Engineering, Event Planning & Management, </font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 2:50 PM Sam Lanfranco <<a href="mailto:lanfran@yorku.ca" target="_blank">lanfran@yorku.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><div><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma">This is more than a "slippery slope", it is a risky precipice over which ICANN does not want to fall. The issues here need to be addressed within the multistakeholder mechanisms of ICANN. Allowing the U.S. Congress to play a role would result in significant damage to ICANN's independence and multistakeholder processes. This needs to be addressed from within, even if that exposes shortcomings in ICANN's internal mechanisms and processes. <br></font></font></font></div><div><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><br></font></font></font></div><div><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma">What is still lacking is a strategic objective, and outcome, to be pursued and supported. What exactly are "we" (NCSG) asking be done here? One "ask" is the choice of venue and mechanism. Via the "Empowered Community"? Other avenues?. The other "ask" is what is the objective here. I think we all agree that any strategy that involves ISOC retaining PIR is a non-option. That would be equally damaging on several fronts, both for ISOC and for ICANN and ICANN-registry relations. What is the elephant in the room here? I think for all of us that "elephant" is a lack of trust in the promises of Ethos Capital with regard to its intentions on how it would run PIR and the .org registry. <br></font></font></font></div><div><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><br></font></font></font></div><div><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma">So what are NCSG's options? What should we be thinking about as we start to build a consensus NCSG response. The first, in my view, it for us to confirm to ourselves that objecting to any ISOC sale of PIR is not a position that should be taken. The second, not in the order that first comes to mind, it to think through what is seen as a desirable outcome, and the third is what ICANN mechanisms should be used to pursue that outcome. We need a discussion on What and How in order to form any response. Looking at the views of others, and at our views expressed elsewhere, helps but we need a consensus building dialogue here so that any pen holders for Rafik's google-docs NCSG comment letter produce a comment that is stakeholder informed. <br></font></font></font></div><div><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><br></font></font></font></div><div><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma">I have suggested elsewhere that there are several positions we might consider and push ICANN to consider. One is whomever the buyer there are safeguards built into the sale, most desirably preserving PIR as a non-profit or incorporated as a Benefit Corporation, no matter who the buyer is. The other, less likely, is seeking to re-open that buyer search to include sovereign funds, charitable foundations, and the like. We need a discussion here. It is not enough to simply inform ourselves about who may agree with our concerns. What are we recommending?<br></font></font></font></div><div><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><br></font></font></font></div><div><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma">Sam Lanfranco, NCSG/NPOC<br></font></font></font></div><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"></font></font></font></font><br><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(0,0,0);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px">---- Original Message ----<br><b>From</b>: dorothy g <<a href="mailto:dgdorothydg@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">dgdorothydg@GMAIL.COM</a>><br><b>To</b>: <a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br><b>Sent</b>: Sun, Jan 5, 2020, 1:54 AM<br><b>Subject</b>: Re: Letter from Senators+ on .ORG Sale<br><br><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I agree slippery slope</div></div><br><br></blockquote><span> </span><br><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(0,0,0);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px"></blockquote></font></div>
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