<div dir="auto">Interesting debate here..I too am living in 2 Countries now but in the same geographical region.<div dir="auto">Olevie</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Le jeu. 19 déc. 2019 à 12:56, Amr Elsadr <aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi,<div><br></div><div>Very much agree with both David’s and Tomslin’s perspectives below, noting that this discussion is really academic, anyway.</div><div><br></div><div>As I pointed out earlier on this thread, there are existing requirements for diversity in Council representation detailed in ICANN’s governing documents, as well as those of the GNSO and NCSG. Wether we agree with them, or not, the NCSG has an obligation to fulfill those diversity requirements, which are not limited to geographic diversity, but other types of diversity as well.</div><div><br></div><div>…, and again…, the NCSG has never really had a problem with these diversity rules. We’re easily the most diverse Stakeholder Group in the GNSO, which has always been reflected in the diversity of our elected officers. We have, however, imo consistently had problems with the quality of our Council representation. That’s something that needs more work.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Amr<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Dec 18, 2019, at 9:06 PM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <<a href="mailto:mesumbeslin@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mesumbeslin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>
<div dir="ltr"><div>I absolutely agree with this thinking David. <br></div><div>We need more diversity at the bottom of the process and our best at the top. If there were a good number at the bottom, we won't have a problem finding strong candidates, meeting the diversity requirements we hope to achieve.</div><div><div><div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Happy holidays!<br></div>Tomslin<div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 20:01, David Cake <<a href="mailto:dave@davecake.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dave@davecake.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>I think James is very astute on this point. <div><br></div><div>We need people to be involved in PDPs and policy work that represent a really diverse geographical range, so we capture a really wide range of perspectives. All of the geographical divisions have a huge range of diversity within them - my own region, APAC, includes India, China, Malaysia, Indonesia, a wide range of pacific islands and more - as well as my own nation, Australia, and its close neighbour New Zealand. We could put up six councillors just from APAC and still represent a diverse range of viewpoints in other ways, or a balanced geographical representation and still have other big diversity issues. But the council just manages policy, and is a good job for people who already are experienced in policy and want to help manage the process. </div><div><br></div><div>But council level is not right solution for regional diversity. Council mostly only deals with the policy process, not the policy detail, and it at the detail level that so many regional differences are important. We want six of our best, experienced, policy experts in council. We need representation from all regions in PDPs and policy work, and then it will be easy to have choose six that represent a broad range of regions. It is better to have a mild imbalance in regional representation (2 councillors is not enough to truly represent the diversity of ANY region, and geography is just a single diversity factor, we also want gender balance, a range of skills, a range of sectors, etc) than to have councillors without enough policy experience. But we really need diversity at the policy level, to make sure regional issues (like, eg, so many IDN issues, or national legal differences) are represented in the policy process. </div><div><br></div><div>So, don’t apply for council just in the hopes of building regional diversity. Jump into the policy processes. </div><div><br></div><div>David </div><div><br></div><div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 18 Dec 2019, at 12:02 am, James Gannon <<a href="mailto:lists@ICANN.GURU" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">lists@ICANN.GURU</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline">more active members from the African region who are participating and contributing to PDPs and policy work in general.</span></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div>
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