<div dir="ltr">Ok, thanks for the clarification and line of thought<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 5:17 PM James Gannon <lists@icann.guru> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Not for a proposed transaction no, that would be impossible as you don’t know 30 days in advance if someone is going to propose to buy/sell a company.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Its 30 days notice of the actual transaction closing, which is planned to happen in Q1 2020 so PIR is within compliance for this aspect given the below timeline.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 10 December 2019 at 16:14<br>
<b>To: </b>James Gannon <lists@icann.guru><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>" <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: ICANN has sent a letter to ISOC<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:lists@icann.guru" target="_blank">@James Gannon</a> my understanding is that for a proposed transaction to be initiated, ICANN should have gotten the notification first.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">However, the blog says otherwise and i quote below.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">"The proposed acquisition of Public Interest Registry (PIR) by Ethos Capital
<b><span style="color:red">was announced on 13 November 2019</span></b> by the parties and the Internet Society (ISOC). This announcement has raised many questions. In light of this, we want to be transparent about where we are in the process."<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Even though this transaction is proposed, they should have notified ICANN of an intention to...<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">By the way, even as an ISOC chapter leader, we got to know on the same day ICANN did.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Caleb Ogundele<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 4:55 PM James Gannon <lists@icann.guru> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">The sale is not complete the 30 day requirement is in relation to a completed transaction.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">NCSG-Discuss <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>> on behalf of Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <<a href="mailto:muyiwacaleb@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">muyiwacaleb@GMAIL.COM</a>><br>
<b>Reply to: </b>Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <<a href="mailto:muyiwacaleb@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">muyiwacaleb@GMAIL.COM</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, 10 December 2019 at 15:54<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>" <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: ICANN has sent a letter to ISOC</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What baffles me is the concern on the timeline. For emphasis... The timeline and how ICANN is also trying to protect her image from the body language of the letter and blog. To
put in perspective see below:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1. Andrew Sulivan informed ISOC Chapter Delegates on:
<b><span style="color:red">November 14, 2019</span></b><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">According to the letter published by ICANN general counsel it says:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:red">2. "<b>On 14 November 2019</b>,
</span>PIR formally notified ICANN of the proposed transaction. Under the .ORG Registry Agreement, PIR must obtain ICANN’s prior approval before any transaction that would result in a change of control of the registry operator. Typically, similar requests to ICANN are
confidential; we asked PIR for permission to publish the notification and they declined our request."<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If I understand correctly, this notice should have been filed earlier to ICANN (at least 30 days notice) before making a public notice os such acquisition? I might be miss something
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<p class="MsoNormal">The fact that PIR failed to give a prior notice itself is a breach of the agreement to nullify the transaction.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">By the way, why did ICANN wait till the pressure was high in the wind before making a public statement?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 4:02 PM Sam Lanfranco <<a href="mailto:lanfran@yorku.ca" target="_blank">lanfran@yorku.ca</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Just For the Record, I have entered the following personal comment into the COMMENTS section for the letter at:
<a href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/org-update" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/news/blog/org-update</a></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">As a stakeholder in the .org community, and member of NCSG/NPOC there are a number of issues that concern me here, but a major one is that while Ethos Capital is making promises about the future,
there is no track record for the newly formed Ethos, or evidence of expertise in the registry field by the investors. I would have fewer worries about this change in ownership if (IF!) PIR actually was incorporated as a Benefit Corporation (B Corp), if this
sale goes forward. Incorporation as a B Corp (and not just B Lab "Certification") should become a condition of any sale of PIR, to any buyer.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>From</b>: Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@FERDELINE.COM" target="_blank">icann@FERDELINE.COM</a>><br>
<b>To</b>: <a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
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<b>Subject</b>: ICANN has sent a letter to ISOC</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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