<div dir="ltr"><div>Thanks Sam elaborating on Milton's draft proposal, you have rely made it easier for me to understand</div><div>Thanks very much Stephanie for all the guidance.</div><div><br></div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small"><div><b>WISDOM DONKOR</b><br></div><div><font size="1">President & CEO</font></div><div><font size="1">Africa Open Data and Internet Research Foundation</font></div><div><font size="1">P.O. Box CT 2439, Cantonments, Accra | <a href="http://www.aodirf.org" target="_blank">www.aodirf.org</a></font></div><div><font size="1">Tel: +233 20 812 8851</font></div><div><font size="1">Skype: wisdom_dk | Facebook: kwasi wisdom | Twitter: @wisdom_dk </font></div><div>__________________________________________________</div><div><font size="1">Specialization:</font></div><div><font size="1">E-government Network Infrastructure and E-application, Internet Governance, Open Data policies platforms & Community Development, Cyber Security, Domain Name Systems, Software Engineering, Event Planning & Management, <b style="font-size:small"><br></b></font></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 6:59 PM Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I think Sam is raising an important point here, and support its inclusion. I would also like to respond to Milton's comment that we have been wasting time....</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I think we have had a detailed, reasoned, and [mostly] polite and respectful discussion on an important issue. That issue is complex to many of us who have not been following ICANN issues for the past twenty years,
so regardless of whether those who are experts in the field think it was useful, I would like to remind us that one of the purposes of this list is to help our members get up to speed on the issues. For those who don't know where to look for other views,
it is helpful to post those other views, whether we hold them or not. Those who follow the governance list are aware that there there has been an interesting parallel discussion which has also been informative and [IMHO] largely polite and constructive.<br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Finally I have a question. What do our Council members think? There is a Council meeting coming up this week...has the matter surfaced there at all?</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I agree with Milton that we should finalize a draft and get agreement on sending it. There should be a policy committee meeting coming up this week.<br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Kind regards, <br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie Perrin</font></font><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">I support the approach taken by Milton in his proposed draft of today (Dev 8<sup>th</sup>). I add the following commentary.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%">Milton’s draft says: “<i><span style="color:black">We do not begrudge ISOC its need to secure its financial future
and eliminate conflicts of interest</span></i>”. This is one area where we should agree. Ethos Capital may not be the only way to achieve this, or there may be ways to constrain Ethos Capital to run PIR in the public interest. We need wider engaged stakeholder
discussion at this point. As well, how the processed unfolded with ICANN’s cap removal, ISOC’s sale strategy, and who knew what when with Ethos Capital, is a story to be ferreted out and told by others. It should not be NCSG's primary concern.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;color:black">We should respect ISOC’s right to secure its future. Our primary worry is about the future of PIR and
its registries, and Ethos Capital’s actual behavior as the potential owner. Our primary concern is what can be done to protect the integrity of the PIR’s registries, and the interests of their domain name holder community.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;color:black">We, as NCSG, are asking ICANN and its constituencies to listen to our concerns. At the same time we,
as stakeholders, should be asking ISOC, its chapters, domain name holders and concerned communities in general, as well as Ethos Capital in particular, to participate in meaningful dialogue with respect to a satisfactory resolution of the issues around the
future behavior of PIR and its registries.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;color:black">As for Mitch Stoltz’s suggestion that “<i>ICANN find an appropriate replacement for performing the functions
of PIR by putting .ORG, .NGO, and .ONG up for public tender</i>.”, we can assemble solutions but I am not sure if we should be suggesting particular solutions at this point. I would prefer them to come out of meaningful dialogue.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;color:black">If Ethos Capital purchase remains on the table, I for one will be pushing for Ethos Capital to commit
to making PIR a Benefit Corporation (B Corp). Many states, and Washington D.C. have legislation that allows incorporation as a Benefit Corporation [<i>Briefly: B Corp duty is to more widely defined stakeholders and not primarily to owner profit</i>].
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;color:black">Ethos Capital’s proposed B Corp Certification for PIR is not enough. It is not Benefit Corporation incorporation.
Certification is a Trust Mark, pledging one to “good behavior”, and is granted by the non-profit B Lab organization’s certification process. The B Lab Trust Mark is best used on existing companies whose track record can be assessed before issuing Certification.It
would represent nothing more than a promise of “good behavior” in terms of how Ethos ran PIR. It is not legally binding on Ethos Capital as an owner of PIR, nor would it be on subsequent owners should Ethos sell PIR.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:107%;color:black">Benefit Corporation incorporation of PIR is much more binding on Ethos and subsequent owners of PIR.</span></p>
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