<html><head></head><body>Hi,<div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">I also support this letter as originally drafted by Milton (but I did reinforce one of the demands with a suggestion of my own), but don’t agree to the edits by Mitch asking for the sale to be halted should the 3 demands not be met, and would prefer the two sections asking this be removed.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">For one thing, I’m not convinced that the sale is a bad thing for ISOC, PIR or non-commercial registrants of .org. There’s a lot of fear-mongering going on about this sale, which raise concerns that I believe are very unrealistic and will never be realized, unless the objective of Ethos is to run PIR into the ground after spending USD 1.135 billion on it.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Also, if ICANN doesn’t agree to the 3 demands in this letter, which are really good ones imo, why in the world would we expect them to agree to halt the sale altogether?! Of course we don’t. My only takeaway from adding this demand here is that at some point, an article on some news site or blog post will feature the NCSG joining the campaign to halt the sale, while little to no attention will be directed to the more relevant demands in the letter. Those demands are more technical and nuanced than simply halting the sale, but unfortunately not nearly as sexy or click-baity as #SaveDotOrg.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">I’m not at all comfortable with this, and believe that it conflates the primary objective (which should be the ONLY objective) of the letter, which is not to halt the sale, nor raise concerns over ISOC’s more than questionable choices on how it handled the sale. The demands in the letter need to be focused on protecting the interests of non-commercial registrants in the .org (as well as the .ngo and .ong) space, period.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Thanks.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Amr<br class=""/><div><br class=""/><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Dec 8, 2019, at 2:55 AM, James Gannon <<a href="mailto:lists@ICANN.GURU" class="">lists@ICANN.GURU</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"/><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">I support this letter as I think it might generate real actions from the board.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="" class="">---</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="" class="">James Gannon</span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">NCSG-Discuss <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>> on behalf of "Mueller, Milton L" <<a href="mailto:milton@GATECH.EDU" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">milton@GATECH.EDU</a>><br class=""/><b class="">Reply to:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Mueller, Milton L" <<a href="mailto:milton@GATECH.EDU" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">milton@GATECH.EDU</a>><br class=""/><b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Sunday, 8 December 2019 at 00:47<br class=""/><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" class="">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>" <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" class="">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>><br class=""/><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Proposed Letter to ICANN<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">At this link<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zfaTlkIUZEsNMOQljy43SQSXZUQBmgFSJYVnjGgpYp8/edit?usp=sharing" style="color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zfaTlkIUZEsNMOQljy43SQSXZUQBmgFSJYVnjGgpYp8/edit?usp=sharing</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">you can see a new proposed letter to ICANN. I have started from scratch.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The main difference is that instead of screaming about the sale I am focusing on the conditions attached to the original award of .ORG to PIR. I am asking ICANN to recognize its obligation to ensure that those conditions continue to be met.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Anyone with the link can comment. I hope this can gather quick support. I think we have wasted a lot of time and need to act quickly. If NCSG cannot act fast enugh I will publish it as an open letter to ICANN on the IGP blog, and accept sign-ons from anyone willing.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Dr. Milton L Mueller<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Georgia Institute of Technology<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">School of Public Policy<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span id="cid:image001.png@01D5AD62.3CCD5EB0"><image001.png></span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""/></div></body></html>