<html><head></head><body>Hi Raoul,<div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">No, I don’t think you have this right at all. For matters that involve gTLD policy, the changes to the contract have to go through the GNSO’s PDP first, followed by adoption by the Board and a cycle of implementation.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">For matters outside of gTLD policies, negotiations take place between ICANN and the Contracted Parties, and they both have to agree to whatever changes are made. However, I do imagine that if ICANN Org wants to push through new obligations it knows would be unappealing to the Contracted Party in question, it’d probably want to have some leverage handy.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">I hope this helps.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Thanks.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Amr<br class=""/><div><br class=""/><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 23, 2019, at 11:19 AM, Raoul Plommer <<a href="mailto:plommer@GMAIL.COM" class="">plommer@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"/><div class="">
<div dir="ltr" class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px" class="">As I said in my previous message, we shouldn’t care too much who owns .org; we should care about the contractual substance in the .org Registry Agreement (RA)</span> </blockquote><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Am I getting this right, that being the "DNS overlord", it could be easier for ICANN to make a new regulating decision about .org, instead of trying to overturn a previous one? In other words, could ICANN change the terms on the contract and .org owners would just have to suck it up?</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">-Raoul</div><div class=""> </div></div><br class=""/><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 at 04:41, Mueller, Milton L <<a href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu" class="">milton@gatech.edu</a>> wrote:<br class=""/></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="gmail-m_-2748675895637080519WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="">Hmm, well, 27 large, respected nonprofits may have their heads up their posteriors.
<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="">Why are they asking ISOC to stop the sale of PIR? The sale is a huge benefit to ISOC. In fact, it is the only thing about this deal that makes good sense. ISOC
no longer has to run a nonprofit that makes a big profit. It can detach itself from the domain name industry and lose its conflict of interest in the ICANN DNS policy making process.
<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class="">As I said in my previous message, we shouldn’t care too much who owns .org; we should care about the contractual substance in the .org Registry Agreement (RA)<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif" class=""> NCSG-Discuss <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank" class="">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>>
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<b class="">Subject:</b> 27 Large, Respected Non-Profits Send Letter to Internet Society Urging It to Stop Sale of .ORG<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">The American Alliance of Museums, the Crisis Text Line, Girl Scouts, National Council of Nonprofits, Public Knowledge, R Street, YMCA, Wikimedia Foundation, and EFF, among others, have sent a letter today to the Internet Society urging
it to stop the sale of the Public Interest Registry to Ethos Capital. The group has argued that .ORG is extremely important to the non-profit community, and as such, they should have a voice in decisions affecting the future of the domain. The group has also
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