<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Thanks for putting this together, Farzi. It's a good outline.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small;color:#000000">Regards,</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 9:30 AM farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Hi everyone </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">We will have a DNS Abuse session in Montreal at 10.30 AM today (in an hour). Stephanie asked me to be on the panel providing the non-commercial perspective. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">As far as I know and as they informed me during the planning meeting for this, Bruce Tonkin has formatted it roughly as such:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">1. What is DNS abuse. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I don't think our problem rests in the definition of DNS abuse but we have been struggling with not having a thorough governance mechanism for fighting with abuse. We need to have policies, an implementation plan and dispute resolution. We only have patches of solutions but not a governance mechanism. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Here I want to emphasize the solely technical aspect of DNS abuse. DNS is a tool that can be used to carry out crimes and to a much greater extent, it can be used to facilitate our communications, global interconnectedness, e-commerce and many more human life activities that can lead to prosperity. We need to refrain from re-opening the issue of DNS abuse definition every time. DNS abuse has a limited technical meaning, it is in the RAAs and by no means, it relates to the content. Re-opening the discussion on definition only has merits if there are novel criminal activities that are directly and solely related to the usage of the DNS. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">2. What is the role of ICANN: Just because the usage of DNS can be detected in a grand criminal scheme does not mean we have to and can combat that crime through ICANN. ICANN becomes a convenient policy forum to go to because its mission is related to the DNS but that doesn't mean that we can and need to resolve all the crimes that are somehow related to DNS or have used the DNS among other things through ICANN. Wanting to resolve all crimes that someone had DNS involved can hamper the distributed and open nature of the Internet. ICANN should not become the cetralized go to place for combatting with all sorts of crimes. sometimes DNS is used but the crime committed through a wide variety of other technical deceptions, for example through insecure protocols or social engineering. These subtlities have to be considered when we want to discuss them at ICANN.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">3. Registries registrars: incentives, sharing best practices etc.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">There has to be a clear line between what registries and registrars want to do with regards to DNS abuse and what ICANN should tell them to do. I personally don't like ICANN be used as a venue to share practices about content regulation even if it's not binding it reflects a wrong image about ICANN's mission to the public.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">4. How should registries and registrars combat egregious content: I believe if registries and registrars want to do something about egregious content they need to have again a governance mechanism. They need to have transparent policies, policies on implementation and dispute resolution. The legitimacy of decisionmaking and their authority will be hampered should they make arbitrary decision. They will be more prone to government pressure as well if they don't have a thorough governance mechanism. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I am sorry, sending this in late but I just managed to put them all together.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div></div>
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