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    <p>Could you add me too, Elsa, tx! <br>
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    <p>Kathy <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/9/2019 3:23 PM, Elsa S wrote:<br>
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        <div dir="auto">Excellent, I’ll start a separate list for us
          four!</div>
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      <div dir="auto">Thank you for volunteering folks,</div>
      <div dir="auto"><br>
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      <div dir="auto">Elsa</div>
      <div dir="auto">—</div>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 9:07
            AM Peter Micek <<a href="mailto:petermicek@gmail.com"
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              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at
                10:25 PM Raphaël Beauregard-Lacroix <<a
                  href="mailto:rbeauregardlacroix@gmail.com"
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                <div dir="ltr">I can! Just loop me in the doc</div>
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 8, 2019
                    at 4:11 PM Elsa S <<a
                      href="mailto:elsa.saade@gmail.com" target="_blank"
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                      <div dir="auto">Amr,</div>
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                    <div dir="auto">Thank you so much for stepping up on
                      this. And for raising important points on the
                      list.</div>
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                    <div dir="auto">Given that noone else has written
                      back yet and given the short amount of time we
                      have, I guess the best way forward would be to
                      draft an initial response and then take it from
                      there on the list over two days’ time from the
                      11th so that the PC would also have time to review
                      the document before submission time. What do you
                      think?</div>
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                    <div dir="auto">I’d be more than happy to help post
                      initial drafting! Anyone else willing to help Amr
                      and I with this?</div>
                    <div dir="auto"><br>
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                    <div dir="auto">Best,</div>
                    <div dir="auto"><br>
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                    <div dir="auto">Elsa</div>
                    <div dir="auto">—</div>
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 8,
                          2019 at 9:51 AM Amr Elsadr
                          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja"><aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja></a> wrote:<br>
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                          <div>Hi,
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                            <div>I might be able to help draft
                              something, but don’t believe I’ll be able
                              to begin before Friday, 11 October. My
                              personal views on how ICANN should tackle
                              the “Global Public Interest” (GPI) are
                              pretty consistent with the recent text
                              prepared by Farzaneh and Elsa, which was
                              included in a recent <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/drazek-et-al-to-icann-board-09sep19-en.pdf"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">letter
                                from the GNSO Council to the ICANN Board</a>.
                              It wouldn’t be too challenging to
                              elaborate on this further.</div>
                            <div><br>
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                            <div>However, I should note that in the
                              past, the NCSG has not had a consensus
                              position on this topic (kind of similar to
                              the recent discussion on ICANN regulating
                              gTLD domain name registration pricing).
                              GPI hasn’t come up on this mailing list in
                              a while, so I honestly don’t recall who
                              had previously engaged in our discussion
                              on this, nor what their rationale was.
                              Apologies for that. I do, however, know
                              quite well what my views on the subject
                              are. :-) I just hesitate to present those
                              as NCSG views, as I do not know that it
                              would be correct for me to do so.</div>
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                            <div>Thanks.</div>
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                            <div>Amr<br>
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                                  <div>On Oct 8, 2019, at 5:07 AM, Elsa
                                    S <<a
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                                      <div dir="auto">Hey everyone,</div>
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                                    <div dir="auto"><br>
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                                    <div dir="auto">The deadline for
                                      submission of this comment is the
                                      18th of this month and according
                                      to Rafik noone has volunteered to
                                      write an NCSG response yet. I’d be
                                      happy to help support the team of
                                      volunteers anyway possible, but
                                      cannot write the comment myself
                                      due to a big workload on the
                                      council side. However I would
                                      really encourage a small team of
                                      us to engage with this topic
                                      urgently.</div>
                                    <div dir="auto"><br>
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                                    <div dir="auto">Any volunteers
                                      willing to work together?</div>
                                    <div dir="auto"><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div dir="auto">Best,</div>
                                    <div dir="auto"><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div dir="auto">E.</div>
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                                          class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep
                                          23, 2019 at 10:39 PM Tomslin
                                          Samme-Nlar <<a
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                                            references Elsa. I'll go dig
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                                                          <div>Very best
                                                          regards</div>
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                                              class="gmail_attr">On Tue,
                                              24 Sep 2019 at 11:27, Elsa
                                              S <<a
                                                href="mailto:elsa.saade@gmail.com"
                                                target="_blank"
                                                moz-do-not-send="true">elsa.saade@gmail.com</a>>
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                                                <div dir="auto">It’s
                                                  also good to note that
                                                  these two instances
                                                  were not the only
                                                  ones, however I shared
                                                  them here promptly,
                                                  for the sake of
                                                  providing a couple of
                                                  examples. I’m sure
                                                  others on the PC would
                                                  be able to provide
                                                  more details :)</div>
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                                              <div dir="auto"><br>
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                                              <div dir="auto">Best,</div>
                                              <div dir="auto"><br>
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                                              <div dir="auto">Elsa</div>
                                              <div dir="auto">—</div>
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                                                    class="gmail_attr">On
                                                    Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at
                                                    9:24 PM Elsa S <<a
href="mailto:elsa.saade@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true">elsa.saade@gmail.com</a>>
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                                                      <div dir="auto">Hey
                                                        Tomslin,</div>
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                                                    <div dir="auto">Thanks
                                                      for the question! </div>
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                                                    <div dir="auto">Actually
                                                      in Kobe, (off the
                                                      top of my head) we
                                                      had a meeting with
                                                      the board where
                                                      Global Public
                                                      Interest was
                                                      discussed. I’m
                                                      pretty sure if you
                                                      look at the
                                                      archives of that
                                                      meeting which I
                                                      think was
                                                      recorded, you’d
                                                      find several
                                                      statements by NCSG
                                                      reps on the issue
                                                      in conversation
                                                      with board
                                                      members. I
                                                      remember quite
                                                      vividly that we
                                                      mentioned, it’s
                                                      best not to use
                                                      the term loosely,
                                                      if at all.</div>
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                                                    <div dir="auto">We’ve
                                                      also raised the
                                                      issue of the use
                                                      of “global public
                                                      interest” most
                                                      recently at the
                                                      GNSO Council
                                                      level. The board
                                                      recently sent a
                                                      letter to the
                                                      coyncil about
                                                      Phase 1 of the
                                                      EPDP and referred
                                                      to “Global Public
                                                      Interest” in their
                                                      reasoning for
                                                      concern within the
                                                      letter. NCSG
                                                      pushed for
                                                      expressing concern
                                                      about the use of
                                                      the term in the
                                                      letter from the
                                                      GNSO Council and
                                                      our wording was
                                                      incorporated into
                                                      the GNSO Council’s
                                                      reply. This should
                                                      definitely be in
                                                      the archives.</div>
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                                                    <div dir="auto">Apologies
                                                      that i will not be
                                                      able to provide
                                                      links at the
                                                      moment, however I
                                                      thought the
                                                      question needed to
                                                      be answered
                                                      promptly.</div>
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                                                    <div dir="auto">E.</div>
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                                                          class="gmail_attr">On
                                                          Mon, Sep 23,
                                                          2019 at 8:25
                                                          PM Tomslin
                                                          Samme-Nlar
                                                          <<a
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                                                          <div>Thanks
                                                          Milton for the
                                                          nudge and
                                                          thanks Rafik
                                                          for the
                                                          details.</div>
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                                                          said "<i>Even
                                                          though NCSG in
                                                          the past year
                                                          as far as I’ve
                                                          seen, has been
                                                          pushing for
                                                          not using the
                                                          word from the
                                                          start,</i>" do
                                                          we (NCSG) have
                                                          any formal
                                                          statement on
                                                          this recorded
                                                          somewhere that
                                                          I can take a
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class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 at 10:05, Rafik Dammak <<a
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                                                          <div>the
                                                          details about
                                                          public
                                                          consultation
                                                          below. I
                                                          created a
                                                          google doc so
                                                          we can start
                                                          the drafting
                                                          for a NCSG
                                                          Comment <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nZJ91SSW55Isl2iBAEASopfYnWcsgsBcXdB5hUUjNdI/edit"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nZJ91SSW55Isl2iBAEASopfYnWcsgsBcXdB5hUUjNdI/edit</a>.
                                                          you can listen
                                                          to webinar
                                                          recordings 
                                                          here <a
                                                          href="https://community.icann.org/display/prjxplrpublicint/GPI+Toolkit"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/display/prjxplrpublicint/GPI+Toolkit</a> .</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Best,</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Rafik</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">From 18 September –
                                                          18 October
                                                          2019, a
                                                          community
                                                          consultation
                                                          is taking
                                                          place on the <span>global</span> <span>public</span> interest
                                                          framework
                                                          proposed by
                                                          the ICANN
                                                          Board. In
                                                          reviewing the
                                                          proposal, the
                                                          ICANN Board is
                                                          asking the
                                                          ICANN
                                                          community to
                                                          consider the
                                                          following
                                                          questions for
                                                          input to the
                                                          ICANN Board:</span><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(64,63,66)"></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:30pt;font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">1.<span
style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times
                                                          New
                                                          Roman"">  </span></span><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">What are your
                                                          thoughts on
                                                          the proposed
                                                          framework
                                                          approach? Do
                                                          you have any
                                                          suggestions
                                                          for how it
                                                          could be
                                                          improved?</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:30pt;font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">2.<span
style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times
                                                          New
                                                          Roman"">  </span></span><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">What are your
                                                          thoughts on
                                                          the proposed
                                                          approach for
                                                          decisions in
                                                          the ICANN
                                                          ecosystem to
                                                          be accompanied
                                                          by a
                                                          consideration
                                                          of their
                                                          impact on the <span>global</span> <span>public</span> interest
                                                          (as well as an
                                                          explanation
                                                          regarding what
                                                          is meant by
                                                          the GPI in the
                                                          specific
                                                          case)?</span></p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-left:30pt;font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">3.<span
style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:7pt;line-height:normal;font-family:"Times
                                                          New
                                                          Roman"">  </span></span><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">How do you see this
                                                          working for
                                                          the Supporting
                                                          Organization
                                                          (SO), Advisory
                                                          Committee
                                                          (AC),
                                                          constituency,
                                                          group, review
                                                          team, or
                                                          cross-community
                                                          working group
                                                          (CCWG) to
                                                          which you are
                                                          contributing?</span></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(64,63,66)"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The <span>global</span> <span>public</span> interest
                                                          is central to
                                                          many of
                                                          ICANN’s
                                                          primary
                                                          governance
                                                          documents, and
                                                          the ICANN
                                                          Board hopes to
                                                          play a role in
                                                          facilitating a
                                                          bottom-up,
                                                          community-driven
                                                          process to
                                                          develop a
                                                          framework as a
                                                          toolkit for
                                                          the ICANN
                                                          community to
                                                          consider the <span>global</span> <span>public</span> interest.
                                                          These
                                                          considerations
                                                          would not
                                                          change the
                                                          process by
                                                          which
                                                          decisions are
                                                          made but could
                                                          instead serve
                                                          as tools for
                                                          the community
                                                          to reinforce
                                                          the commitment
                                                          to the <span>public</span> interest
                                                          and to
                                                          demonstrate
                                                          how specific
                                                          recommendations,
                                                          advice, and <span>public</span> comments
                                                          are in the <span>global</span><span>public</span> interest.
                                                          This includes
                                                          the ICANN
                                                          community
                                                          guiding the
                                                          ICANN Board
                                                          about the <span>public</span> interest
                                                          determination
                                                          the latter
                                                          must make in
                                                          its decisions.</span><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(64,63,66)"></span></p>
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                                                          style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(64,63,66)"> </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">To learn more about
                                                          the framework,
                                                          please read
                                                          the </span><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(64,63,66)"><a
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__r20.rs6.net_tn.jsp-3Ff-3D0014631p6ECz1koeg6ajMSzZrFT7DO05069BKNDJvhNpKDU-2D38mdcxCqJ1EJzj5gscgfkGfGj-2DFGI3o7d-5FcGAxvEYcLuDt-2DuNbFw7pLtAPwsOOBVyljJ-5FnOUkAdXGEq-5Fpqhnx9MAz7aDEHi3hvOaYb3gqWjXDXghZrpf0Ca1iUZzXdnGBbim2ZY09p7WU0m-2DXOMIhpn2CTVR7lR4v-2DDeX-5F4RZFHV0Vx2gnIRwJwkZKqQoiglVM4l6PG-2Df7xB-5FIkXMVwTDMtu5FHvXFhlTLLJIN5Jg-3D-3D-26c-3Dz44JySTIvEGqNJPIjwWImwF59dG21I-2DoxnM1Mz6G5PmaucLg5GaW-5Fg-3D-3D-26ch-3DFcbT1z5bmkz6UEfk6eUJehq3ywPR-5FHTaxr7BzhY6q17TcrAkO831rw-3D-3D&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DRa2dXAvSFpCIgmkXhFzL7ar9Qfqa0AIgn-H4xR2EBk&m=Zrm2TmioSoHmD-RVsf08eb9s33A4I2k08_uP0LOo_zA&s=Y1oSQaaaH67cndtqhCcGryOkThAU0RpFNJVzZzD0mGc&e="
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                                          style="color:rgb(72,161,153)">discussion
                                                          paper
                                                          [r20.rs6.net]</span></a></span><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">. Community feedback
                                                          is welcome by <b>Friday,
                                                          18 October
                                                          2019 via email
                                                          at </b></span><b><u><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(72,161,153)"><a
href="mailto:gpitoolkit@icann.org" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">gpitoolkit@icann.org</a></span></u></b><span
style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">. After the community
                                                          consultation,
                                                          there will be
                                                          a <span>public</span> session
                                                          at ICANN66,
                                                          followed by a <span>Public</span> Comment
                                                          proceeding.</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">
                                                          <div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_attr">Le mar. 24 sept. 2019 à 08:53, Elsa S <<a
                                                          href="mailto:elsa.saade@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">elsa.saade@gmail.com</a>> a
                                                          écrit :<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                                                          rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto">Thanks
                                                          for sharing
                                                          Milton!</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto">ICANN
                                                          seems adamant
                                                          about using
                                                          the terms on a
                                                          context to
                                                          context basis
                                                          given the new
                                                          proposed path
                                                          forward, also
                                                          shared in two
                                                          webinars this
                                                          month.</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto">Even
                                                          though NCSG in
                                                          the past year
                                                          as far as I’ve
                                                          seen, has been
                                                          pushing for
                                                          not using the
                                                          word from the
                                                          start, it
                                                          seems we might
                                                          have to
                                                          actively work
                                                          on mitigating
                                                          the risk of
                                                          its use in a
                                                          more
                                                          structurally
                                                          biased way.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto">I’m
                                                          keeping an eye
                                                          out for any
                                                          developments
                                                          on the
                                                          consultation
                                                          phase (even
                                                          though I would
                                                          have preferred
                                                          a formal
                                                          public comment
                                                          phase
                                                          instead), but
                                                          would also
                                                          invite that we
                                                          all have a
                                                          discussion
                                                          about the
                                                          proposed way
                                                          forward by
                                                          ICANN, more
                                                          meticulously
                                                          and
                                                          collectively.</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto">Best,</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto">Elsa</div>
                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto">—</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">
                                                          <div dir="ltr"
class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 5:59 PM Mueller, Milton L
                                                          <<a
                                                          href="mailto:milton@gatech.edu"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">milton@gatech.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                                                          rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div
                                                          lang="EN-US">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">I
                                                          was reading
                                                          some scholarly
                                                          literature
                                                          about public
                                                          service
                                                          broadcasting
                                                          and came
                                                          across this
                                                          statement from
                                                          a GigaNet
                                                          colleague, Yik
                                                          Chin:
                                                          </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">“The
                                                          Constitution
                                                          of the PRC
                                                          indeed speaks
                                                          the language
                                                          of the Public
                                                          Interest (PI),
                                                          and the term
                                                          regularly
                                                          appears in
                                                          legal
                                                          provisions
                                                          without
                                                          definition.
                                                          There have
                                                          been no
                                                          juridical
                                                          interpretations
                                                          of ‘PI’,
                                                          either. This
                                                          ambiguity
                                                          gives
                                                          discretionary
                                                          power to the
                                                          authorities to
                                                          interpret ‘PI’
                                                          in ways that
                                                          invade and
                                                          deprive
                                                          individuals of
                                                          their rights.
                                                          Chin, Y.C
                                                          2012.</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Food
                                                          for thought</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Dr.
                                                          Milton L
                                                          Mueller</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">School
                                                          of Public
                                                          Policy </p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Georgia
                                                          Institute of
                                                          Technology</p>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          -- <br>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">--<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Elsa Saade<br>
                                                          Consultant</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Gulf
                                                          Centre for
                                                          Human Rights</div>
                                                          <div>Twitter:
                                                          @Elsa_Saade</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </blockquote>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    -- <br>
                                                    <div dir="ltr">
                                                      <div dir="ltr">
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">--<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Elsa Saade<br>
                                                          Consultant</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Gulf
                                                          Centre for
                                                          Human Rights</div>
                                                          <div>Twitter:
                                                          @Elsa_Saade</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </blockquote>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                              -- <br>
                                              <div dir="ltr">
                                                <div dir="ltr">
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div dir="ltr">
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div dir="ltr">--<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Elsa Saade<br>
                                                          Consultant</div>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Gulf Centre
                                                        for Human Rights</div>
                                                      <div>Twitter:
                                                        @Elsa_Saade</div>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                            </blockquote>
                                          </div>
                                        </blockquote>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    -- <br>
                                    <div dir="ltr">
                                      <div dir="ltr">
                                        <div>
                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                            <div>
                                              <div dir="ltr">--<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Elsa Saade<br>
                                                Consultant</div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Gulf Centre for Human
                                              Rights</div>
                                            <div>Twitter: @Elsa_Saade</div>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                </blockquote>
                              </div>
                              <br>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </blockquote>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                    -- <br>
                    <div dir="ltr">
                      <div dir="ltr">
                        <div>
                          <div dir="ltr">
                            <div>
                              <div dir="ltr">--<br>
                                <br>
                                Elsa Saade<br>
                                Consultant</div>
                            </div>
                            <div>Gulf Centre for Human Rights</div>
                            <div>Twitter: @Elsa_Saade</div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </blockquote>
                </div>
              </blockquote>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
        </div>
      </div>
      -- <br>
      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"
        data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
        <div dir="ltr">
          <div>
            <div dir="ltr">
              <div>
                <div dir="ltr">--<br>
                  <br>
                  Elsa Saade<br>
                  Consultant</div>
              </div>
              <div>Gulf Centre for Human Rights</div>
              <div>Twitter: @Elsa_Saade</div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Kathy Kleiman
President, Domain Name Rights Coalition
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