<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Are you being innocently wrong Ayden or are you not saying the truth? Because there is no such a longstanding tradition. And I guess I would have known it because I was the Chair before Stephanie, the mailing list is there you can check for yourself. for One on Ones, we always went to the general mailing list. For CEO and Board meetings we finalized the questions with PC. PC members don't have time, there was only one day to send the questions I thought would be good to get a broader perspective.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I think you would like to carry out personal attacks against me since you have been abusive and accusatory when engaging with me in NCSG chat channels and now on the mailing list. In the past, I thought you should be given chances to correct your path. Been a long time. Nothing has changed. You even got a nudge by members that your practices are not well received among the community. Seems like nothing works.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I don't think NCSG deserves the rant and accusatory show you want to display. I also do not want to engage with you since it is not going to go anywhere and my time is more precious. However, if you continue accusing me, I will definitely take action through the appropriate channels ( such as a complaint to the NCSG chair and taking the case to Ombuds if necessary). Someone has to put an end to this gossip show, if necessary, I will do it. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 12:16 PM Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Forgive me for asking this.<br></div><div><br></div><div>But why, Farzaneh, did you take this conversation from the Policy Committee list to the main NCSG-Discuss list?<br></div><div><br></div><div>It is not that the main discussion list should not be consulted, of course there is nothing wrong with that.<br></div><div><br></div><div>However the long standing practice is that it is the NCSG Chair who would take such a conversation to the list after formulating a first draft of questions with the Policy Committee.<br></div><div><br></div><div>And that is exactly what Stephanie was doing.<br></div><div><br></div><div>So I am not sure why you would try to undermine Stephanie like this. I consider it very disrespectful.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Ayden<br></div><div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div> On Tuesday, 1 October 2019 21:28, farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@GMAIL.COM</a>> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Hi Stephanie<br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks a lot for putting this together. I cc'd the list.<br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The first question is an actual comment. So he has invited some NCSG members to dinner? Or is this the usual dinner invitation? And who would you like to take with you to this dinner if you could take other members?<br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The second question, you are asking for a research librarian for the community. This should have been in form of additional budget request and I don't think anything can be done about it now. It's simply too late and the CEO doesn't have a pot of money to give to noncommercials to have a research librarian. This again is not a question, it's an ask. I don't think there would be any problem with if we suggest this as an ABR and promote it and get support from other community groups (though I am dubious about its effectiveness, since if we don't have many people active, why would they want to use a research libraria?)<br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The third question is again another ask for a budget, and this time its reallocation.I see that in this request, you mention that CSG was disinterested in meeting with "us". And then there was a concession? Would be glad to know more about this if you could share the details. You are asking for another day to be added to Cancun for NCSG to meet internally. I don't have an issue with that but I am wondering if the CEO will even entertain your request if you don't say the objectives of this one day meeting with NCSG. <br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I'd like to ask the CEO, and we have been asking this before, why some important call for comments from the community are published on blogs and not on public comment page? Can that be fixed?<br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Are you going to discuss his blog about ICANN's carbon foot print?<br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Could you also please raise the point that we are unclear about the nature of evolving ICANN's MSM process? Brian Cute (if I am not mistaken) was appointed by the Board or the CEO, and this whole initiative was created in a top-down manner I believe. How do they want to actually evolve the MSM when the process of evolving it is a top down process? <br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> <br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Farzaneh</span><br></div></div></div></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 11:48 AM Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><p><span><span style="font-family:"Lucida Grande"">I have my one on 14 with Goran tomorrow. I am late in sending these questions out for approcal, they were due yesterday. I have discussed with Bruna, that is it. Let me know if you have any reactions, I am sending
very shortly.</span></span><br></p><p><span><span style="font-family:"Lucida Grande"">cheers Steph</span></span><br></p></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div> NCSG-PC mailing list<br></div><div> <a href="mailto:NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is</a><br></div><div> <a href="https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc</a><br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div><br></div></blockquote></div>