<div dir="auto"><div>I support this proposal.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Shah<br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 11:58 MAURICIA ABDOL <<a href="mailto:ladymauriciaa12@gmail.com">ladymauriciaa12@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I support the proposal. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Kind regards,</div><div dir="auto">Mauricia<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Ms. Mauricia Abdol<br><br>BA. PSY, LCS, WGS; BA HONS. PSY (UWC)<br>MA Child & Family Studies UWC<br>Independent Contractor - Appen Ltd. <br>Facilitator Interprofessional Health Studies UWC<br><br><br><br><br><br> </div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 12 Sep 2019, 05:44 Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">icann@ferdeline.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>I would like to lend my support to this proposal. Thanks, Stephanie.<br></div><div><br></div><div class="m_-9175105734274691429m_9111886751161521656protonmail_signature_block"><div class="m_-9175105734274691429m_9111886751161521656protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>Ayden Férdeline <br></div></div><div class="m_-9175105734274691429m_9111886751161521656protonmail_signature_block-proton m_-9175105734274691429m_9111886751161521656protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div> On Thursday, 12 September 2019 04:44, Wolfgang Kleinwächter <<a href="mailto:wolfgang@KLEINWAECHTER.INFO" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">wolfgang@KLEINWAECHTER.INFO</a>> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="m_-9175105734274691429m_9111886751161521656protonmail_quote" type="cite"><p>1++ to Stephanie<br></p><p>wolfgang<br></p><blockquote type="cite"><div>Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@MAIL.UTORONTO.CA" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@MAIL.UTORONTO.CA</a>> hat am 12. September 2019 um 02:06 geschrieben: <br></div><div> <br></div><p><span style="font-size:xx-small"><span style="font-family:"Lucida Grande"">I think that the matter merits a response from us. Civil society functions in broad coalitions and does a lot of its work through petitions and sign on campaigns. To dismiss a form letter is therefore unacceptable for these reasons; to interpret a signature on a form letter as spam is in my view at least demonstrating a failure to understand how public campaigns actually work. The onus is on us, as users of this technique, to correct this assertion.</span></span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:xx-small"><span style="font-family:"Lucida Grande"">If our members support this opinion, I will draft up a letter to send to the Board. The Ombudsman is of course entirely entitled to his opinion and response, but we should explain to the Board how we feel about the matter. </span></span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:xx-small"><span style="font-family:"Lucida Grande"">Let me know by the end of the week, if there is no objection I will draft up a letter.</span></span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:xx-small"><span style="font-family:"Lucida Grande"">Kind regards, </span></span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:xx-small"><span style="font-family:"Lucida Grande"">Stephanie Perrin</span></span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:xx-small"><span style="font-family:"Lucida Grande"">NCSG Chair</span></span><br></p><div>On 2019-09-11 19:23, Ayden Férdeline wrote: <br></div><blockquote type="cite"><pre>Thanks Michael, I agree that the optics here are poor - particularly given this does seem inconsistent with how ICANN has previously treated coordinated submissions. Back in 2017, when numerous intellectual property interests were sending in identical, form letters regarding the importance of maintaining open-ended unaccountable Whois, I didn't see these being disregarded as being spam submissions. Nor should they have been, as while the messaging was identical, the sentiments were sincerely held. I hope that the Ombudsman might reconsider his stance on this matter.
Ayden Férdeline
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On Thursday, 12 September 2019 01:13, Michael Karanicolas <a href="mailto:mkaranicolas@GMAIL.COM" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><mkaranicolas@GMAIL.COM></a> wrote:
<br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre>Ugh. This is a really bad look for the Ombudsman. These kinds of
coordinated campaigns are absolutely standard practice for civil
society. Open Media, for example, does this all the time in public
comment periods, providing their network with a list of "talking
points" and a link, and encouraging them to submit things on these
lines. So long as these are actual people or organizations that are
submitting the comments (as opposed to bots) - it's 100% legitimate.
There's been no indication that the comments here were automated, or
that there was anything fishy about the organizations submitting the
comments.
Even putting aside his ultimate recommendation to dismiss the
complaint, this is a very disappointing and narrow-minded stance for
the Ombudsman to take.
Best,
Michael Karanicolas
Wikimedia Fellow
Yale Law School
On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 3:22 PM Ayden Férdeline <a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a> wrote:
<br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre>Dear all,
I am sharing this article for information purposes:
org price cap complaints more like “spam” says Ombudsman
<a href="http://domainincite.com/24720-org-price-cap-complaints-more-like-spam-says-ombudsman" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://domainincite.com/24720-org-price-cap-complaints-more-like-spam-says-ombudsman</a>
Kind regards,
Ayden Férdeline
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