<div dir="ltr">Well that's news to me that the host has to foot the entire bill. It makes it structurally difficult for "developing economies" to host it. They make everything they can to receive bids... sure, but when the starting bid is several millions USD, well, one should not be surprised. We may think what we want of the usefulness of the IGF, but certainly it being held systematically in the "Global North" does not make it better in any way. <div><br></div><div>Arsène do you have a source for your numbers? Not that I doubt them, but I'd be curious to have a more granular understanding of the expenses related to an IGF meeting. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 11:49 AM Arsène Tungali <<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">You are right, Poncelet.<br>
<br>
It was possible for Kenya because of the UN regional office which is<br>
there. IGF 2011 in Kenya was actually my first global IGF :)<br>
<br>
For the costs of hotels, hum, I am not sure though. Maybe flights?<br>
Again, the IGF has been at very expensive places in the past. See<br>
Geneva itself?<br>
<br>
Ethiopia was also mentioned today as there is the African Union and<br>
the UN Economic Commission for Africa which could also easily host the<br>
IGF with fewer costs because they have the facility in place.<br>
<br>
2019-06-05 18:35 UTC+03:00, Poncelet Ileleji <<a href="mailto:pileleji@ymca.gm" target="_blank">pileleji@ymca.gm</a>>:<br>
> Arsene,<br>
><br>
> I suspected that, except Kenya in Africa host again in as it has the<br>
> biggest UN facility within the African continent as it did before. If not<br>
> except countries bid then we have this situation. Secondly for options on<br>
> hotels and flights etc Europe is always cheaper in my opinion. At least we<br>
> not going to places like Azerbaijan again 😂<br>
><br>
> On Wednesday, 5 June 2019, Arsène Tungali <<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> The rotation has been widely discussed today at the MAG meeting<br>
>> because so many of us were not happy to have yet another IGF happening<br>
>> in Europe.<br>
>><br>
>> But the UNDESA and the IGF Secretariat mentioned that they are doing<br>
>> everything they can to ensure other countries are biding in but they<br>
>> only receive few interested countries.<br>
>><br>
>> On a question I raised about the requirements, it was noted that there<br>
>> is a strong financial expectation from the host, which is supposed to<br>
>> cover ALL the expenses related to putting together an IGF. And this is<br>
>> between 2-3 millions USD (less, if the event is to be held at the UN<br>
>> office).<br>
>><br>
>> So, a lot to say... But for now, people should get ready for Poland!<br>
>><br>
>> 2019-06-05 18:04 UTC+03:00, Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>:<br>
>> > How interesting. I thought, at one time, that there was a desire for<br>
>> > the<br>
>> IGF<br>
>> > to rotate between regions. Seems that has not happened in a while.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Ayden Férdeline<br>
>> ><br>
>> > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br>
>> > On Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:23, Arsène Tungali<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@GMAIL.COM</a>><br>
>> > wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >> Hi all,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> It has just been announced at the Open Consultation and MAG meeting<br>
>> >> today.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Regards,<br>
>> >> Arsene<br>
>> >><br>
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