<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I agree with Elsa. There are several different processes running together, most of the leadership is currently preparing for Marrakesh and aligning agendas whilst undergoing elections period. I would also kindly highlight that these elections are quite different from the previous ones, as we had EC and GNSO at the same time, thus requiring more time, coordination, and communication efforts from the EC and, in particular from the respective chairs. Not to mention our policy engagement in the second phase of the EPDP and the ongoing discussions on the evaluation of the multistakeholder model.</div><div><br></div><div>Editing the Charter is something that requires quite a lot of time, commitment, and dedication. We should proceed with caution to clearly define what are the demands and assess whether now is the time to advance in this front. I hope the remarks made thus far provide a perspective to the wider landscape of activities that <i>also</i> require our energy and dedication so that we're mindful of how (and if) we wish to engage in a Charter discussion at this point in time. </div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000"><b>Louise Marie Hurel</b></font></div><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><font face="Arial, sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="font-size:11px">Research and Project Development Cybersecurity and Digital Liberties Programme | Igarapé Institute</span></font></p><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Louise_Marie_Hurel/publications"><font size="1">Publications</font></a></p><div><font size="1" color="#000000">Skype: louise.dias</font></div><div><font color="#000000" size="1"><span><a href="mailto:louise@igarape.org.br">louise@igarape.org.br</a></span></font></div><div><font size="1" color="#444444"><a href="mailto:louise.marie.hsd@gmail.com">louise.marie.hsd@gmail.com</a> </font></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 22:17, Elsa S <<a href="mailto:elsa.saade@gmail.com">elsa.saade@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir="auto">Hi all,</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Given that we’re on the verge of elections, and a meeting in a couple of weeks, I suggest this conversation be rainchecked till after Marrakesh. This will also give everyone time to get concrete suggestions to the discussion table after reading the charter thoroughly (and maybe even revisiting old threads that have discussed this issue at length several times).</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Charter work is not easy as we all know. And it could take years to amend as per precedents (Veterans please correct me if I’m wrong). Bottom line, I personally think we should definitely be more careful as to what we wish for and how to get there.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">My two cents here.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">E.</div><div dir="auto">—</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 8:45 PM Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Dear Thato and Remmy, <br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Let me be more precise. What amendments are you proposing?</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">The more concrete your proposals for revision are, the more quickly matters will be resolved. Drafting of any new Charter amendments does not fall to me, it is incumbent on those wishing to change it to make concrete
proposals for change. I am aware of the problems with the original Charter, but I expect there will be considerable divergence of views on what our priorities ought to be in making changes. For instance, we do not as a stakeholder group agree on the following:</font></font></p>
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<li><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Should we have membership fees?</font></font></li><li><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Should we incorporate? <br>
</font></font></li><li><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Should we fundraise?</font></font></li></ul>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">My remarks were not intended to be a "throwback" but if you want changes, please be specific.
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">My priority, as stated earlier and in my candidate statement, is that we participate actively in ICANN's currently ongoing revision of the multi-stakeholder process/model. I would suggest that we wait till the
ink is dry on that procedure, before revising our Charter. I hope you will tune in on that discussion, and realize the gravity of the situation. There may be radical changes coming in our financial situation and methods of participation. However, you of
course have the right under the Charter to request revision. Just follow the process.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Kind regards, <br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie Perrin</font></font><br>
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<div class="gmail-m_3683697917623421589m_-1150415585620797586moz-cite-prefix">On 2019-06-06 17:38, Thato Mfikwe wrote:<br>
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<div>I second the motion to have the Charter reviewed. Thus far I have also noted that sections relating to the Finance Committee need some work to only contain what is applicable, besides the recent organizational vs the individual voting processes that have
recently emerged. The charter does not need to be followed partially but holistically without limitation since it is a guiding document on SG activities and processes. I am sure that there will be other amendments as a result of the proposed review.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 8:49 PM Remmy Nweke <<a href="mailto:remmyn@gmail.com" target="_blank">remmyn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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Dear Stephanie and Colleagues in NCSG,<br>
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Apologies ahead for a lengthy mail.<br>
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1. I do not want to see this as a throwback from madam chair considering the time, which coincides with the ongoing NCSG election and related constituency blocs, I wish to propose for amendment of our NCSG Charter, which came into effect since May 5, 2011.<br>
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2. I am also aware that severally, you as chair among others agreed before now that the Charter needs to be reworked and that Executive Committee (EC) of NCSG has the mandate to present it to the house for review, if you so wish and which I think will be
more direct and will end the reoccurring dilemma during elections etc, which you have been trying to explain for a while and safe us the agony in the future.<br>
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3. The NCSG Charter in use was approved since May 5, 2011. We all know that in this Information and Communication Technology (ICT) sector, moreso the Internet or Domain Name System (DNS) industry, the level of disruptions have made it imperative for stakeholders
like us to be in tune with development rather than being hindered by our charter.<br>
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4. An instance is the aspect of the NCSG Charter which has to do with Finance Committee (Section 2.6) coupled with multiplicity of interpretations adduced by various members, which to the best of my ability has been the bane of why Finance Committee is not
and may not work optimally to the benefit of its stakeholders in line with its Charter mandate.<br>
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5. Inter alia the Section 2.6 stated:<br>
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6. “The NCSG Finance Committee is responsible for establishing a firm financial footing for the NCSG and administering NCSG funds within a defined framework that meets relevant legal requirements as well as requirements imposed by ICANN.<br>
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7. “The NCSG- FC’s responsibilities include fund raising, setting voluntary contribution levels for members, determining procedures for the distribution of funds, and for monitoring the utilization of funds.<br>
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8. “The NCSG-FC will also be responsible for the Treasurer function. Formation of the NCSG-‐FC, its composition, and duties within the NCSG-FC are set out in Section 2.6.”<br>
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9. We also had instance where an individual was elected into the EC of NCSG and still placed self for elective position for an Executive Committee of a Constituency within NCSG, as if we are lacking people. The truth is that since works here are largely
voluntary and for good governance, such loopholes should not exist or allowed to exist let alone uphold it. As such it negates transparency in leadership.<br>
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10.Motion for Amendment:<br>
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11. In accordance with (5.0 Amendments to the NCSG Charter) which states:<br>
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12. “Proposals to amend this charter may be submitted by five (5) percent of the then- current members eligible to vote, based on the weighted voting as defined in section 4.0. Proposals may also be put forward by the NCSG-EC or the ICANN Board of Directors
or one of the Board's committees.<br>
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13. “Amendments proposed by the NCSG members or the NCSG-EC will only take effect after there has been a membership review, approval by 60% vote of NCSG members using the weighted voting defined in section 4.0 and final review/approval by the ICANN Board
of Directors.<br>
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14. “Amendments proposed and approved by the ICANN Board of Directors or one of its Committees will only take effect after membership review and approval by 60% vote of the NCSG members using the weighted voting defined in section 4.0. The ICANN Board may
require proposed amendments to be posted for public comment prior to taking its decision on the proposal.”<br>
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15. So, based on the aforementioned instances, permit me to move a motion that the NCSG Charter (May 5, 2011) be amended in accordance with Section 5.0, and for EC to take every necessary steps to actualize this. I so moved.<br>
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Thanks and accept my highest regards.<br>
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Remmy Nweke<br>
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June 6, 2019<br>
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