<div dir="ltr"><div>I agree that this is deeply troublesome and offer the example of the dot pharmacy designation as the entities that created it and authorize websites have deep ties to the pharmaceutical industry and a vested interest in keeping drug prices high, so they will only authorize sites that charge inflated prices for medications. Since access to drugs can be a matter of life and death, this elevates the importance and urgency of the issue. </div><div><br></div><div>I found the Facebook story interesting, and was wondering if we should be trying to advise the FTC on these matters? Although I am located in the DC area, my expertise is in healthcare rather than online matters such as this. These issues affect healthcare greatly and if I can be helpful in any way, I would love to play a role in moving the discussion forward.</div><div><br clear="all"></div><div><div class="gmail_signature" dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Tracy Cooley </div><div>Executive Director </div><div>Campaign for Personal Prescription Importation </div><div><a href="https://personalimportation.org" target="_blank">https://personalimportation.org</a> </div><div><br></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 1:39 PM Mitch Stoltz <<a href="mailto:mitch@eff.org">mitch@eff.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
  
    
  
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    I find the new registry agreements deeply troubling. They
    effectively give registries the authority, even the obligation, to
    determine if web content is legal, truthful, "fraudulent," etc. and
    to wield domain suspension as a remedy for all manner of speech
    regulation. There's so much popular anger at platforms like Facebook
    over their content moderation right now that I can't understand why
    registries want to get into that business. And yet many of them seem
    eager.<br>
         Mitch<br>
    <pre class="gmail-m_-8120302082647724883moz-signature" cols="72">Mitch Stoltz
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    <div class="gmail-m_-8120302082647724883moz-cite-prefix">On 5/14/19 5:04 AM, dorothy g wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Dear Collin, 
          Have you been following the discussion around the nature of
          changes in the Registry agreements, that allow registries to
          become content police?</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">best</div>
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        <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 11:30
          AM Collin Kurre <<a href="mailto:collin@article19.org" target="_blank">collin@article19.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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            <p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Hi everyone,</font></p>
            <p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Thanks for
                getting this conversation started, Farell! Jumping in to
                share some additional context useful for our Stakeholder
                Group:<br>
              </font></p>
            <p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">The USA may
                have chosen to avoid regulation up to this point, but
                many countries have done the opposite. Efforts to
                regulate content are particularly relevant to the DNS,
                as there are an abundance of "voluntary" or legally
                mandated DNS filters currently deployed by ISPs around
                the world. [0] It's difficult to gauge the extent of DNS
                blocking as many of these agreements are not made
                publicly available for scrutiny by consumers or civil
                society. </font></p>
            <p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">At the end of
                the day, DNS blocking is a half-baked solution. Often
                times it's merely an inconvenience for people seeking
                banned content [1]. At best it thwarts access to
                allegedly unlawful content without addressing the
                offense in itself. Moreover, the widespread
                implementation of new protocols like DNS-over-HTTPS
                (DoH) or -TLS (DoT) by US-based companies like Google,
                Cloudflare, and Mozilla will likely disrupt this status
                quo, once again raising questions about centralization
                and jurisdiction. <br>
              </font></p>
            <p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">So far,
                regulatory measures floated to address this evolving
                technical landscape generally range from bad to worse in
                terms of freedom of expression and access to
                information. These include blocking IP addresses to
                prevent users from connecting to entire servers, or
                deploying allowlists instead of blocklists. These issues
                aren't yet at the forefront of discussions within ICANN,
                but we should be aware of them to anticipate changes on
                the horizon.<br>
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            <p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Best,<br>
                Collin</font></p>
            <p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">[0] See for
                example:
                <a class="gmail-m_-8120302082647724883gmail-m_1938190869887437290moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_blocking_in_the_United_Kingdom#ISP_Default_network_blocking" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_blocking_in_the_United_Kingdom#ISP_Default_network_blocking</a></font></p>
            <p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">[1] Consider
                The Pirate Bay's infinite mirrors: <a class="gmail-m_-8120302082647724883gmail-m_1938190869887437290moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://proxybay.ist" target="_blank">https://proxybay.ist</a></font><br>
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            <div class="gmail-m_-8120302082647724883gmail-m_1938190869887437290moz-cite-prefix">On
              13/05/2019 22:53, Stephanie Perrin wrote:<br>
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              <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I agree with
                    Dorothy.  ALso extremely relevant to us as we
                    volunteer in this MS group:  was the decision not to
                    regulate the Internet a sound one?  If not what
                    needs tweaking and how?  Not so much to do with the
                    DNS, it is true...but any kind of monopoly breakup
                    may have some relevance to us.</font></font></p>
              <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers
                    Stephanie</font></font></p>
              <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">PS the
                    future does tend to take its own sweet time to
                    reveal all....look at how long it has taken people
                    to realize what FB is doing with all our data!<br>
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                2019-05-13 17:24, dorothy g wrote:<br>
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                  <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">This
                    is beyond privacy, it is to do with hegemony and
                    control without accountability. It is to do with how
                    we should organise our digital future. As to
                    influence, the future will reveal all.</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon, May 13, 2019
                    at 8:50 PM Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>>
                    wrote:<br>
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                        <div>Sent from my mobile<br>
                          Kindly excuse brevity and typos</div>
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                          <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon, 13
                            May 2019, 22:32 dorothy g, <<a href="mailto:dgdorothydg@gmail.com" target="_blank">dgdorothydg@gmail.com</a>>
                            wrote:<br>
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                              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Thanks Farell, 
                                There are many excellent articles on
                                this topic but from a co-founder this
                                will have a lot of influence.</div>
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                      <div dir="auto">SO: While I do not downplay the
                        privacy issues, I don't think the article of a
                        co-founder who already cashed out of FB would
                        add the much significant influence expected.</div>
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                      <div dir="auto">Regards</div>
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                              <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon,
                                May 13, 2019 at 7:03 PM Farell FOLLY
                                <<a href="mailto:farell@benin2point0.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">farell@benin2point0.org</a>>
                                wrote:<br>
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                                                All,</div>
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                                                found this article about
                                                facebook and privacy
                                                particularly
                                                interesting. It has
                                                nothing to do directly
                                                with domain names but It
                                                can educate more on how
                                                and why users should
                                                take more care about
                                                their data and how it is
                                                processed.` Also, it
                                                pointes out the danger
                                                of monopoly versus a
                                                multi stakeholder
                                                approach.</div>
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                                              <div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/opinion/sunday/chris-hughes-facebook-zuckerberg.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/09/opinion/sunday/chris-hughes-facebook-zuckerberg.html</a></div>
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                                                Best Regards<br>
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                                                  Farell FOLLY</div>
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                                                  Rep. to the NCSG
                                                  Policy Committee</div>
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                            <div class="gmail-m_-8120302082647724883gmail-m_1938190869887437290gmail-m_-4288642715802935554m_-8583804527532039127gmail_signature" dir="ltr">
                              <div dir="ltr">Dorothy Gordon</div>
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                  <div dir="ltr">Dorothy Gordon</div>
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            <pre class="gmail-m_-8120302082647724883gmail-m_1938190869887437290moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Collin Kurre
Digital Program Officer
ARTICLE 19</pre>
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