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        <div style="direction: ltr;">Thanks for the reference, Kathy! I hope as many community members as possible can voice their concerns and help avert the problematic consequences of the proposal. </div>
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  <div><hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex="-1"><div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="dir="ltr""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> NCSG-Discuss <ncsg-discuss@listserv.syr.edu> on behalf of Kathy Kleiman <kathy@dnrc.tech><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 27, 2019 04:50<br><b>To:</b> ncsg-discuss@listserv.syr.edu<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Urgent] [Public Comment] Proposed Renewal of .org Registry Agreement<div> </div></font></div>    <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">        <span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New      Roman",serif;      mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Hi Milton,      Amr and All,</span>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;      line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Unfortunately,        I read the contract differently        and fear that the current 10 million .ORG registrants face a        difficult (and        expensive) future. To Milton's excellent question, <i>What,          exactly, are          those “protections for existing registrants”?</i>, the answer        is <i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal">"not much."</i> Here's        the pricing        provisions of the .ORG proposed agreement (and I’ve been        checking with domain        name attorneys all afternoon): </span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;      line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">2.10(a)        Registries provide        registrars with a 30 day notice of price increases        (registrations).<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span></span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;      line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">2.10(b)        “With respect to renewal of        domain name registrants” Registry will provide registrars with        “advance written        notice of any price increase, and “</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;        font-family:"Times New Roman",serif">Registry Operator        shall offer registrars the        option to obtain domain name registration renewals at the        current price (i.e.,        the price in place prior to any noticed increase) for periods of        one (1) to ten        (10) years at the discretion of the registrar, but no greater        than ten (10)        years.” </span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;      line-height:normal"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:normal"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style:          normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times            New Roman",serif">But the            option to allow renewal for 1 to 10 years is at the option            of the registrar.            There’s nothing that requires the registrar to notify            registrants that the price            of their .ORG domain names will be going (possibly            dramatically) and that the            time to renew is now. This is something that is being            written about a lot, but            I don’t see it in the contract. (Some registrars may let            their registrants know            early; others may not.) There is absolutely no requirement            of notice to the            registrant of a price increase for renewals – for .ORG (or            any other registry            which has signed this agreement). </span></i></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:        normal"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Cambria",serif;mso-bidi-font-family:Cambria"><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span></span></i></b><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:        normal"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;            font-family:"Times New            Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New            Roman""></span></i></b></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;      line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">2.10(c) “In        addition, Registry        Operator must have uniform pricing for renewals of domain name        registrations (“Renewal        Pricing”). For the purposes of determining Renewal Pricing, the        price for each        domain registration renewal must be identical to the price of        all other domain        name registration renewals at the time of such renewal” <span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>with some vague additional        language about not        wanting to allow abusive and discriminatory renewal pricing. </span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;      line-height:normal"><b><i style="mso-bidi-font-style:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New            Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:            "Times New Roman"">Thus, PIR’s job is to charge            all registrars the same price for            new registrations and renewals – whatever that price is and            however much PIR            wants to charge. This is no guidance about abusive and            discriminatory renewal            pricing, no definitions and no clear limitations. </span></i></b></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;      line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Overall, I        think Akriti Bopanna’s        comment for The Centre for Internet and Society, India, today is        right on point:</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><b style="mso-bidi-font-weight:        normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times          New Roman",serif;          mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">“Removal          of Price Caps</span></b></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman""> </span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">“ICANN’s decision to remove price        caps in the .org agreement        will only intensify the unfettered power given to Registries        with the        presumption of renewal. The</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">organization has long heard        accusations of engaging in        closed door decision making</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">and with such a move that pushes        for the rights of        registries over registrars, such</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">concerns are only growing. As it        is, .org can raise its        prices by 10% every year which is</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">unduly generous in itself.5 Giving        PIR a limitless ability        to increase prices would be</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">doing grave injustice to domain        owners who have bought such        domains under the</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">assumption of price caps. This is        in contrast to the new        gTLDS where there is more of</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">a burden on such owners to keep up        with the actions of        private owners. Legacy</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">gTLDS, unlike the new ones, were        not created and sold to        private entities but handed</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">over to entities like PIR to        maintain them in public        interest.</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman""> </span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">“Being one of the first TLD’s to be        introduced, a multitude        of significant websites and</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">therein, initiatives, have their        home on the .org domain. As        pointed out in the</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">community discussions several        times, these domains are used        by NGO’s, nonprofit</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">trade associations, individual        member associations as well        as tax-exempt charities.6</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">ICANN’s justification for proposing        these steps is to align        legacy gTLD agreements with those of the other newer gTLDS but        as argued by the        Internet Commerce</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">Association;</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman""> </span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">“They have completely different        characteristics, history,        and ownership</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">structure. It is not acceptable for        ICANN to ignore these        differences and to</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">propose that they be treated the        same.7</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman""> </span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">“Given the longevity of these        domains on .org, they have put        in substantial investment</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">in maintaining their online        presence and cultivating their        identity and brand. They</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">are entitled to protection from        arbitrary pricing and having        the same financial rules</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">as when they originally bought        their domains. If such caps        are removed then many of</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">these domain owners can find it too        expensive to maintain        their sites, especially with</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">no guarantee of future price        stability as well. A look at        the mailing lists is enough to</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">see how small organizations are        actively pleading with ICANN        to not go ahead with</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">this because it will increase their        operational costs.8</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman""> </span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">“None of this is to say that PIR        would, in fact, go ahead        and increase the prices</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">exorbitantly or at all, however        leaving that option to them        does not bode well for any</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">party save them. Further, no clear        reasoning has been        provided for such a step like</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">the need for any additional funds        to maintain the domain and        in absence of any</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">exceptionally necessary situation,        the price cap should        continue to exist. Given that</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">PIR is a not-for-profit        organization, the rationale to        remove caps seems even less</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">unclear than it would be, for say,        Verisign. Allowing the        removals could very well be</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">opening Pandora’s box with other        Registries then demanding        removals too. Registries</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">own all the extensions to their        domain and lack of a price        ceiling only enriches the</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">revenue of, ultimately, the one        owner leading to a bigger        monopolistic situation than</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;      margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;mso-fareast-font-family:        "Times New Roman"">already is currently prevalent.</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;      line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Needless to        say, I support NCSG’s comment too!</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;      line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Best,        Kathy </span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;      line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">----------------------------</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;      line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Proposed        2019 .ORG Registry        Agreement</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">2.10        Pricing for Registry Services.</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">(a) With        respect to initial domain        name registrations, Registry Operator</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">shall        provide each ICANN accredited        registrar that has executed the Registry-Registrar</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Agreement        for the TLD advance        written notice of any price increase (including as a result</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">of the        elimination of any refunds,        rebates, discounts, product tying or other programs</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">which had        the effect of reducing the        price charged to registrars, unless such refunds,</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">rebates,        discounts, product tying or        other programs are of a limited duration that is clearly</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">and        conspicuously disclosed to the        registrar when offered) of no less than thirty (30)</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">calendar        days. Registry Operator        shall offer registrars the option to obtain initial domain</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">name        registrations for periods of        one (1) to ten (10) years at the discretion of the registrar,</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">but no        greater than ten (10) years.</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">(b) With        respect to renewal of        domain name registrations, Registry</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Operator        shall provide each ICANN        accredited registrar that has executed the Registry-</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Registrar        Agreement for the TLD        advance written notice of any price increase (including as</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">a result of        the elimination of any        refunds, rebates, discounts, product tying, Qualified</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Marketing        Programs or other programs        which had the effect of reducing the price charged</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">to        registrars) of no less than one        hundred eighty (180) calendar days. Notwithstanding the</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">foregoing        sentence, with respect to        renewal of domain name registrations: (i) Registry</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Operator        need only provide thirty        (30) calendar days notice of any price increase if the</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">resulting        price is less than or        equal to (A) for the period beginning on the Effective Date</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">and ending        twelve (12) months        following the Effective Date, the initial price charged for</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">registrations        in the TLD, or (B) for        subsequent periods, a price for which Registry Operator</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">provided a        notice pursuant to the        first sentence of this Section 2.10(b) within the twelve</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">(12) month        period preceding the        effective date of the proposed price increase; and (ii)</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Registry        Operator need not provide        notice of any price increase for the imposition of the</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Variable        Registry-Level Fee set        forth in Section 6.3. Registry Operator shall offer registrars</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">the option        to obtain domain name        registration renewals at the current price (i.e., the price in        place prior to        any noticed increase) for periods of one (1) to ten (10) years        at the        discretion of the registrar, but no greater than ten (10) years.</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">(c) In        addition, Registry Operator        must have uniform pricing for renewals</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">of domain        name registrations        (“Renewal Pricing”). For the purposes of determining</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Renewal        Pricing, the price for each        domain registration renewal must be identical to the</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">price of        all other domain name        registration renewals in place at the time of such renewal,</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">and such        price must take into        account universal application of any refunds, rebates,</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">discounts,        product tying or other        programs in place at the time of renewal. The foregoing</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">requirements        of this Section 2.10(c)        shall not apply for (i) purposes of determining</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Renewal        Pricing if the registrar has        provided Registry Operator with documentation that</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">demonstrates        that the applicable        registrant expressly agreed in its registration agreement</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">with        registrar to higher Renewal        Pricing at the time of the initial registration of the domain</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">name        following clear and conspicuous        disclosure of such Renewal Pricing to such</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">registrant,        and (ii) discounted        Renewal Pricing pursuant to a Qualified Marketing Program</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">(as defined        below). The parties        acknowledge that the purpose of this Section 2.10(c) is to</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">prohibit        abusive and/or        discriminatory Renewal Pricing practices imposed by Registry</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Operator        without the written consent        of the applicable registrant at the time of the initial</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">registration        of the domain and this        Section 2.10(c) will be interpreted broadly to prohibit</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">such        practices. For purposes of this        Section 2.10(c), a “Qualified Marketing Program” is a</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">marketing        program pursuant to which        Registry Operator offers discounted Renewal</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Pricing,        provided that each of the        following criteria is satisfied: (i) the program and related</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">discounts        are offered for a period        of time not to exceed one hundred eighty (180) calendar</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">days (with        consecutive substantially        similar programs aggregated for purposes of</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">determining        the number of calendar        days of the program), (ii) all ICANN accredited</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">registrars        are provided the same        opportunity to qualify for such discounted Renewal</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Pricing;        and (iii) the intent or        effect of the program is not to exclude any particular</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">class(es)        of registrations (e.g.,        registrations held by large corporations) or increase the</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">renewal        price of any particular        class(es) of registrations. Nothing in this Section 2.10(c)</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">shall limit        Registry Operator’s        obligations pursuant to Section 2.10(b).</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman""> </span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">(d)        Registry Operator shall provide        public query-based DNS lookup</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:      normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">service for        the TLD (that is,        operate the Registry TLD zone servers) at its sole expense.</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;      line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">-------------</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;      line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Here’s        PIR’s current pricing        language, from its 2013 agreement:</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;      line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">Section        7.3. Pricing for Domain Name        Registrations and Registry Services. </span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;      line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">7.3(a)        Pricing. From the Effective        Date through 31 December 2013, the price to ICANN-accredited        registrars for new        and renewal domain name registrations and for transferring a        domain name        registration from one ICANN-accredited registrar to another,        shall not exceed a        total fee of US$8.25 (the "Maximum Service Fee"). Commencing on        1        January 2014, the Maximum Service Fee charged during a calendar        year for each        annual increment of a new and renewal domain name registration        and for        transferring a domain name registration from one        ICANN-accredited registrar to        another, may not exceed the Maximum Service Fee during the        preceding calendar        year multiplied by 1.10. The same Service Fee shall be charged        to all        ICANN-accredited registrars for new and renewal domain name        registrations.        Volume discounts and marketing support and incentive programs        may be made if        the same opportunities to qualify for those discounts and        marketing support and        incentive programs is available to all ICANN-accredited        registrars.</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;      line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman""> 7.3(b)        Adjustments to Pricing for        Domain Name Registrations. Registry Operator shall provide no        less than six        months prior notice in advance of any price increase for domain        name        registrations and shall continue to offer domain name        registrations for periods        of up to ten years.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">  </span>Registry        Operator is        not required to give notice of the imposition of the Variable        Registry-Level        Fee set forth in Section 7.2(c).</span></p>    <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;      line-height:normal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New        Roman",serif;        mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"">----------------------------<br>      </span></p>        <blockquote>      <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">      Hi Milton,      <div class=""><br class="">      </div>      <div class="">If my understanding of Section 2.10 of the Registry        Agreement is correct, registrars can continue to renew existing        registrations without an increase in price following an increase        in pricing of new registrations by the Registry Operator (RO)        for a period of up to 10 years. Additionally, ROs are required        to have uniform pricing for registration renewals. This would        mean that all renewal prices would remain unchanged, unless they        all change across all registrars simultaneously.</div>      <div class=""><br class="">      </div>      <div class="">The protections for existing registrants referred to        are detailed in 2.10c of the Registry Agreement. The protection        is basically that registrants have to agree to renewal prices        higher than that of the original registration at the time of the        initial registration. It can’t be forced upon them at a later        date. This is meant as a provision to <i class="">“<span style="font-family: Cambria, serif; font-size: 16px;            text-indent: 96px;" class="">prohibit abusive and/or            discriminatory Renewal Pricing practices imposed by Registry            Operator without the written consent of the applicable            registrant at the time of the initial registration of the            domain</span>“</i>.</div>      <div class=""><br class="">      </div>      <div class="">Thanks.</div>      <div class=""><br class="">      </div>      <div class="">Amr </div>      <div class="">        <div><br class="">          <blockquote class="">            <div class="">On Apr 25, 2019, at 9:30 PM, Mueller, Milton L              <<a href="mailto:milton@GATECH.EDU" class="">milton@GATECH.EDU</a>> wrote:</div>            <br class="Apple-interchange-newline">            <div class="">              <div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;                caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TrebuchetMS;                font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps:                normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;                text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform:                none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;                -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                  font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:                    Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I agree with the letter’s discussion of URS                    and other RPMs. I agree with Amr that we may need to                    moderate the language about “unilateral ICANN                    action” however because PIR may indeed have gone                    along with this.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div>                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                  font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:                    Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div>                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                  font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:                    Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">On the issue of price caps, I think we need                    some factual clarification. If Amr is right and the                    potential price increases only apply to new                    registrants, then there is much less of an issue.                    The proposed renewal says “</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,                    sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);                    background-color: white; background-position:                    initial initial; background-repeat: initial                    initial;" class="">Protections for existing                    registrants will remain in place, in line with the                    base registry agreement.“</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri,                    sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""></span></div>                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                  font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:                    Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div>                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                  font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:                    Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">What, exactly, are those “protections for                    existing registrants”?</span></div>                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                  font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:                    Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div>                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                  font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:                    Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">MM</span></div>                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                  font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:                    Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></div>                <div class="">                  <div style="border-style: solid none none;                    border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225,                    225, 225); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class="">                    <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:                      12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman",                      serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,                          sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,                        sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NCSG-Discuss                        <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" style="color: purple; text-decoration:                          underline;" class="">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Amr                        Elsadr<br class="">                        <b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday,                        April 25, 2019 10:33 AM<br class="">                        <b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" style="color: purple; text-decoration:                          underline;" class="">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br class="">                        <b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re:                        [Urgent] [Public Comment] Proposed Renewal of                        .org Registry Agreement</span></div>                  </div>                </div>                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                  font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> </div>                <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                  font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Hi,</div>                <div class="">                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                    font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> </div>                </div>                <div class="">                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                    font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Thanks for sharing this, Rafik. Speaking                    for myself, I very much agree with the comment on                    adding the new gTLD Rights Protection Mechanisms                    (RPMs) to the PIR contract for .org at this time. As                    the draft comment rightly points out, these RPMs                    will not actually be Consensus Policies until after                    the ICANN Board adopts the recommendations of the                    Review of all RPMs in all gTLDs PDP Working Group,                    and should not apply to any of the legacy gTLDs,                    including .org. However to characterize the decision                    to do so as a unilateral ICANN decision is something                    I’m not sure of. I presume that PIR negotiated this                    with ICANN before the public comment period began? I                    might be wrong, as I’m making an assumption here.</div>                </div>                <div class="">                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                    font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> </div>                </div>                <div class="">                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                    font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">To be clear, the RPMs that would be                    applicable here (if I’m not mistaken) are the                    Uniform Rapid Suspension (URS) and the Trademark                    Claims RPM (part of the Trademark Clearing House),                    but not the Sunrise Registrations RPM, obviously,                    since .org has been around for a while.</div>                </div>                <div class="">                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                    font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> </div>                </div>                <div class="">                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                    font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Substantively, I don’t believe the URS will                    be much of an issue, since it is largely deemed to                    be an unappealing mechanism for use by Trademark                    holders, as the stats and anecdotal evidence that                    has been shared to date indicate. The impact of                    Trademark Claims, on the other hand, might be very                    different, and prior to it being reviewed by the                    RPMs PDP, and adopted as an ICANN policy, I don’t                    believe adding it to the .org contract in a renewal                    is a good move.</div>                </div>                <div class="">                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                    font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> </div>                </div>                <div class="">                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                    font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">On the second issue, where the draft                    comment disagrees with removing price caps for .org                    registrations, I’m pretty sure I don’t agree with                    the rationale or conclusion. I don’t believe PIR’s                    status as a non-profit entity justifies this. IMO,                    it imposes unreasonable obligations on PIR that                    other Registry Operators are not subject to, so                    effectively penalizing PIR for its status, and its                    continued mission to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">“support                      many excellent causes”</i>, as pointed out in the                    draft.</div>                </div>                <div class="">                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                    font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> </div>                </div>                <div class="">                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                    font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">Furthermore, there is little to no evidence                    that I can see (at least in the draft) that                    registrants of .org domain names will be negatively                    impacted by removal of the price cap. My                    understanding is that this will mainly impact new                    registrations, not existing ones, but this isn’t                    addressed at all.</div>                </div>                <div class="">                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                    font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> </div>                </div>                <div class="">                  <div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt;                    font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class="">To me, PIR needs to set its own price                    taking in to consideration their own consumer base.                    If they make bad decisions that drive their                    customers away, I don’t believe this will negatively                    impact registrants as much as it would PIR itself,                    especially considering that there are over a                    thousand gTLDs for registrants to migrate to, should                    they choose to do so.</div>                </div>                <div class="">                  <div style="margin: 0in 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