<div><div dir="auto">I think that's a good idea. We are coming up with an action plan to resolve these issues so I can bring that up in a meeting with tech team. </div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 8:05 PM Niels ten Oever <<a href="mailto:lists@digitaldissidents.org">lists@digitaldissidents.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Farzaneh,<br>
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We are talking about where and in what format the mailinglists are hosted.<br>
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Some are here on mailman: <a href="https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo</a><br>
And some are here on listserv 16.0: <a href="https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A0=NCSG-DISCUSS" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A0=NCSG-DISCUSS</a><br>
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As you know, listserv 16.0 does not allow for querying or automatic export. <br>
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I think it is of importance that the archives and mailinglist are accessible and available in a uniform format and in a uniform location. I think we had already discussed this in Abu Dhabi and I was just checking in on the progress. <br>
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Happy to help where needed, but I think Tapani has more experience with migrating mail from listserv to mailman, so I won't get in his way :)<br>
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The question is my last mail was: what is blocking the migration from listserv to mailman?<br>
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Best,<br>
<br>
Niels<br>
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On 11/17/18 7:54 PM, farzaneh badii wrote:<br>
> Hello<br>
> <br>
> I don't know what exactly you are asking for Niels but we have put all the mailing lists etc on the NCSG wiki page here: <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG+Mailing+Lists+Archives" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG+Mailing+Lists+Archives</a><br>
> <br>
> We also have a tech team that is trying to fix some of the technical issues you can join and give them feedback if you'd like. <br>
> <br>
> If we were supposed to migrate NCSG to Civi we can. It is ready. Just a request needs to be sent. <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Farzaneh<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 7:32 PM Niels ten Oever <<a href="mailto:lists@digitaldissidents.org" target="_blank">lists@digitaldissidents.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lists@digitaldissidents.org" target="_blank">lists@digitaldissidents.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hi Tapani,<br>
> <br>
> Thanks a lot for your answer! I hope you don't mind if I ask a follow-up question. It is not completely clear to me what the new membership management system change to the mailinglists?<br>
> <br>
> From a transparency standpoint I think it would be really great if all lists and their archives were living in the same place, in the same format.<br>
> <br>
> Best,<br>
> <br>
> Niels<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On 11/16/18 5:34 PM, Tapani Tarvainen wrote:<br>
> > Hi Niels,<br>
> ><br>
> > I don't remember what exactly I said in Abu Dhabi, but the plan has<br>
> > long been to migrate ncsg-discuss to the new membership management<br>
> > system as soon as it's ready. Unfortunately progress there has been<br>
> > rather slow, for which I must bear most of the blame, though it's now<br>
> > officially out of my hands.<br>
> ><br>
> > Technically it would be easy enough to migrate ncsg-discuss to the<br>
> > same Mailman instances where most ncsg lists are (<a href="http://lists.ncsg.is" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lists.ncsg.is</a> <<a href="http://lists.ncsg.is" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.ncsg.is</a>>),<br>
> > I have written tools for migrating archives from LISTSERV to Mailman,<br>
> > and perhaps I should have done that long ago, but I didn't want to end<br>
> > up moving the list twice. (That could still be done should current<br>
> > NCSG leadership so decide.)<br>
> ><br>
> > Tapani<br>
> ><br>
> > On Nov 16 15:04, Niels ten Oever (<a href="mailto:lists@DIGITALDISSIDENTS.ORG" target="_blank">lists@DIGITALDISSIDENTS.ORG</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:lists@DIGITALDISSIDENTS.ORG" target="_blank">lists@DIGITALDISSIDENTS.ORG</a>>) wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> Hi all,<br>
> >><br>
> >> A couple of meetings ago, namely in Abu Dhabi at ICANN60, Tapani said he was working on exporting the current NCSG list to a mailman instance, and way from the Syracuse University infrastructure. I wanted to check where we are in that process.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Best,<br>
> >><br>
> >> Niels<br>
> >> --<br>
> >> Niels ten Oever<br>
> >> Researcher and PhD Candidate<br>
> >> Datactive Research Group<br>
> >> University of Amsterdam<br>
> >><br>
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> <br>
> -- <br>
> Niels ten Oever<br>
> Researcher and PhD Candidate<br>
> Datactive Research Group<br>
> University of Amsterdam<br>
> <br>
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> <br>
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-- <br>
Niels ten Oever<br>
Researcher and PhD Candidate<br>
Datactive Research Group<br>
University of Amsterdam<br>
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</blockquote></div></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div>