<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Hi Mitch,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks a lot. NCUC also wrote a letter to the chair of PIR Board about this and I brought it up during an advisory council meeting in February 2017. Letter is attached.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I also brought it up in the Advisory Council face to face meeting, in October 2017 as well. We held a workshop at IGF in 2017(December) about ICANN and content regulation, invited Brian Cute the then CEO to tell us why periodically PIR gets about providing a third party platform for content regulation. Here is a brief report done by Ayden that sums it up well. </div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Link to the meeting: <a href="http://igf.wgig.org/multilingual/fr/content/igf-2017-day-3-room-xii-ws67-content-regulation-and-private-ordering-at-internet-governance" target="_blank">http://igf.wgig.org/multilingual/fr/content/igf-2017-day-3-room-xii-ws67-content-regulation-and-private-ordering-at-internet-governance</a></font><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">Brian Cute said that registry operators should not be arbitrators of content on the Internet. However, he said that they do have takedown policies, primarily utilised to protect the DNS from botnets, malware, and phishing. The only form of content regulation the Public Interest Registry engages in is to remove child abuse imagery and hate speech, which is protected speech unless there is a specific and clear call to violence as that is illegal in the U.S.. He stated that there is a clear process for takedowns and said that registry operators should rely on due process and the rule of law when deciding whether or not to take content down. He is concerned about increasing government pressure to take down content, and industry models that don’t reflect the requisite level of due process for takedowns. PIR believes that an important question is how services providers engage with stakeholders when considering adopting new policies. PIR considered an approach to systemic copyright violations but has stepped back from this and is reflecting about the stakeholder engagement process issue. </blockquote><div><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">For a couple of months, they were asking us (PIR Advisory council) about how to run a consultative process to come up with dispute resolution platform, until they stopped. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">But from time to time there are some "discussions" here and there. At NCSG we will continue organizing workshops about why ICANN should not be a content regulator. We also have to find ways to stop Domain Name Association to keep appearing on ICANN meeting schedules and have closed meetings! We will also continue telling PIR to be as neutral as possible and not do content regulation nor come up with the idea of third party content moderation provider.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Best regards,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-1251322983017787684gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 5:13 PM Mitch Stoltz <<a href="mailto:mitch@eff.org" target="_blank">mitch@eff.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Dear Farzaneh,<br>
In early 2017 we learned that PIR was, on its own initiative and
with no public input, creating a UDRP-like arbitration system to
rule on copyright claims against the contents of a website,
presumably leading to domain name suspension or transfer. When EFF
began asking questions about this, PIR announced that it was no
longer pursuing it.<br>
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See<br>
<a class="m_-1251322983017787684m_-6888096249891707834moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/02/shadow-regulation-withers-sunlight" target="_blank">https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/02/shadow-regulation-withers-sunlight</a><br>
<a class="m_-1251322983017787684m_-6888096249891707834moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://pir.org/5776-2/" target="_blank">https://pir.org/5776-2/</a><br>
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As this is no longer an active initiative, I do not recommend that
you bring it up at the PIR Advisory Council. But if PIR should again
raise proposals to regulate the content of websites and Internet
services as a domain registry in ways not required by its ICANN
contract (whether for copyright enforcement, pharmacy registration
enforcement, or any other goal) I encourage you to speak out about
it.<br>
Best,<br>
Mitch<br>
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<div class="m_-1251322983017787684m_-6888096249891707834moz-cite-prefix">On 8/30/18 12:37 PM, farzaneh badii
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Dear NCSG,</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I am still the NCSG
representative on Public Interest Registry Advisory Council
and going to attend their meeting in October. The agenda of
the meeting is set usually by PIR but I am hoping we can
provide some feedback. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">What items would you
like to discuss? </div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Please let me know by
4th of September, I would like to send the suggestions off
soon so that they have enough time to think about including or
not including them.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Best regards</div>
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