<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Dear all,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This is an incredibly interesting thread that I thank Zhou for bringing. I have a very narrow background in dealing with law issues, however with some stronger knowledge in regulatory subjects I must say again that I, too, do not feel comfortable that ICANN, at strategy level, is specifically targeting a particular jurisdiction (there can be many to deal with).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The TS seems (intentionally or not) to target mainly the GDPR while wishing (with the ePDP) to address all similars cases within the ICANN ecosystem. What if Africa comes its own “GDPR”? What if ASIA comes with its own “GDPR”?. This is where, in my opinion, mentioning explicitly the GDPR as a big focus is not a good idea, I would prefer a more generic term encompassing any jurisdiction that has rules/policies in conflict with existing WHOIS process. That said, I hope ICANN will develop more specifications in the future if new “GDPRs” bear. I would like to be wrong or to have misunderstood something.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">@Amr, Even with the “Additional Provisions….”, it looks like those cases are considered “miscellaneous”. In addition, nothing guarantees that ICANN will add more provisions to change the 2013 RAA, following the term of the ePDP WG.<br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 6 Aug 2018, at 20:51, Amr Elsadr <<a href="mailto:aelsadr@ICANNPOLICY.NINJA" class="">aelsadr@ICANNPOLICY.NINJA</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Hi,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks for the response, Zhou Heng. If you scroll towards the bottom of the temporary specification, you’ll find section 3 of Appendix A: Registration Data Directory Services, which states:</div><div class=""><strong style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); box-sizing: border-box;" class=""><br class=""></strong></div><div class=""><i class=""><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); box-sizing: border-box;" class="">"</span><strong style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); box-sizing: border-box;" class="">Additional Provisions Concerning Processing Personal Data in Public RDDS Where Processing is not Subject to the GDPR</strong></i></div><div class=""><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=""><i class="">Registry Operator and Registrar MAY apply the requirements in Section 2 of this Appendix (i) where it has a commercially reasonable purpose to do so ,or (ii) where it is not technically feasible to limit application of the requirements as provided in Section 2.1 of this Appendix."</i></span><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Section 2 of the appendix being referred to here explains the r<span style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">equirements for processing personal data in public RDDS where processing is subject to the GDPR.</span></div><div class=""><span style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">The definition of “MAY” is provided in an earlier provision in the temp spec, as opposed to “MUST” or “SHALL”, which would place the requirement on a Chinese or Canadian gTLD Registry Operator, as you suggest. As you can see here, that is not the case.</span></div><div class=""><span style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">Furthermore, there are several provisions in the 2013 RAA (as well as the Registry Agreement) that address contractual obligations to ICANN that may conflict with applicable law. Certainly, in a case where a court order in China requiring that a China-based registrar disclose the PII of a registrant (regardless of the registrant location) is issued, it is fully expected that the registrar complies with the court order.</span></div><div class=""><span style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">I hope that I have understood your concern correctly.</span></div><div class=""><span style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">Thanks.</span></div><div class=""><span style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">Amr</span></div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 6, 2018, at 4:00 PM, Zhou Heng <<a href="mailto:socata@ruc.edu.cn" class="">socata@ruc.edu.cn</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; line-height: 1.7; font-family: Arial;" class=""><div class="">Dear Amr and Stephanie,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Definitely I agree with your word "<i class="">The topic of this EPDP (Expedited Policy Development Process) has a very narrow scope as set by the </i><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/EOTSFGRD/EPDP+Team+Charter" class=""><i class="">Charter</i></a><i class=""> adopted by the GNSO Council, which is to review the </i><a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registration-data-specs-en" class=""><i class="">temporary specification on gTLD registration data</i></a><i class=""> adopted by the ICANN Board. The EPDP Team is tasked to recommend whether this specification should be adopted via a GNSO process as-is, or whether changes should be recommended.</i>" , which is exactly the reason why I sent this emails to the discussion list. Even through I am not a member of EPDP team, I still hope to discuss this topic to enhance the understanding towards this issue in the community. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">However, I believe the Temporary Specification should not be narrowly explained only for the contractual parties in EU. Actually, the article 1.2 of the Temporary specification says "<i class="">1.2. This Temporary Specification applies to all </i><abbr title="generic Top Level Domain" style="box-sizing: border-box; unicode-bidi: bidi-override; direction: ltr; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(153, 153, 153); cursor: help; transition: all 0.2s; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" class=""><i class="">gTLD</i></abbr><i class=""> Registry Operators and </i><abbr title="Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers" style="box-sizing: border-box; unicode-bidi: bidi-override; direction: ltr; border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: rgb(153, 153, 153); cursor: help; transition: all 0.2s; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" class=""><i class="">ICANN</i></abbr><i class="">-accredited Registrars.</i>" Hence, the temporary specification may not be understood as a narrow scope policy issued by ICANN only for dealing with the conflict with GDPR. Even a registry in China/ Canada should also follow the Temporary Specification. Even through the article 32 of <a href="http://www.miit.gov.cn/n1146295/n1146557/n1146624/c5778555/content.html" class=""><i style="text-align: justify;" class="">China Domain Name Governance Rule</i></a><i style="text-align: justify;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></i>did mention the protection of Personal Privacy for domain registrant, there are significant differences between the protection in China and in GDPR. In addition, the article 31 of China Domain Name Governance rule requires the registrar and registry to provide the public query service for domain name registration information.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Here we may have a simple example, if there is a german individual who set up a website named<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://wangzhihe.com/" class="">wangzhihe.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>in a China-based registrar, which is conflicted with a famous trademark Wangzhihe in China, just like the famous case resolved by Munich Higher Regional Court (for details you may check the judgment of 23 April 2009 - 29 U 5712/07 -, juris). Then, the court in China dealing with this case sends a information inquiry to the registrar, what should the registrar do?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">According to article 31 of China Domain Name Governance rule, the registrar have to provide a public query service for the domain name registration information, which is forbidden by Temporary Specification for the information is a EU citizen's personal information. According to 4.1 of appendix A, it is hard to say an intellectual property rights is overweight than personal privacy, through those two rights are equally mentioned in Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union. According to 4.2 of appendix A, clearly a China court is not a relevant court of competent jurisdiction concerning the GDPR, so the court order from China court would probably not suit for the situation. In addition, there is no issued China law or regulation have mentioned the solution towards non-public information, which is almost not exit before GDPR.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Of course I agree the key factor of Temporary Specification is for the limitation to ICANN in accordance with personal privacy law. However, I want to mention some expression in Temporary Specification may be inappropriate, and may incur the conflict over internet governance issue.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am happy to discuss this stuff with the community, and your words really help me better understanding the Temporary Specification and EPDP. Thanks!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">--</div><div style="position: relative; zoom: 1;" class=""><div class="">Zhou Heng</div><div class="">Ph.d Candidate</div><div class="">Renmin University of China</div><div style="clear: both;" class=""></div></div><br class="">在 2018-08-05 23:00:22，Amr Elsadr <<a href="mailto:aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja" class="">aelsadr@icannpolicy.ninja</a>> 写道：<br class=""><blockquote id="isReplyContent" style="padding-left: 1ex; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);" class="">Hi Zhou Heng,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m not subscribed to the NCUC-DISCUSS list, so I hope you don’t mind me switching the recipient of this email to NCSG-DISCUSS.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If I understand your comment below correctly, I don’t agree with it. Let me explain why.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The topic of this EPDP (Expedited Policy Development Process) has a very narrow scope as set by the <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/EOTSFGRD/EPDP+Team+Charter" class="">Charter</a> adopted by the GNSO Council, which is to review the <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registration-data-specs-en" class="">temporary specification on gTLD registration data</a> adopted by the ICANN Board. The EPDP Team is tasked to recommend whether this specification should be adopted via a GNSO process as-is, or whether changes should be recommended. The whole purpose of the temporary specification was to ensure that ICANN, through its contracts with contracted parties (gTLD Registry Operators and Registrars) does not require these parties to process and disclose gTLD domain name registration data in a manner that conflicts with the EU GDPR. So the narrow scope here does not cover other privacy/data protection regimes, and a narrowly scoped policy issue is required in order for the GNSO Council to initiate an Expedited PDP, as opposed to a traditional PDP.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">However, this does not mean that only EU-based actors need to be consulted. Note that there are several non-EU based members on the EPDP Team, as the GDPR affects not only contracted parties that are geographically based in the EU, but also any party that serves EU-based customers, as well as stakeholders around the world that have an interest in accessing this data.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Furthermore, the hypothetical scenario that you describe is not accurate. If a Chinese court requires a China-based registrar to disclose data on a registrant located in China, the GDPR is not to my knowledge at all applicable. That would mean that in this scenario, this temporary specification is also not applicable.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m multitasking right now, so hope that my explanation is helpful and clear enough, and that I have not misrepresented the facts. I am happy to be corrected, if I am wrong. Perhaps others would like to weigh in.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Amr<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 5, 2018, at 2:47 PM, Zhou Heng <<a href="mailto:socata@ruc.edu.cn" class="">socata@ruc.edu.cn</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="" style="font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; line-height: 1.7; font-family: Arial;"><div class="">Dear Community and EPDP WG members,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I would like to make one comment towards the Temporary Specification:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">26.<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Please<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.45pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>consider<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.35pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Appendix<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>A:<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.45pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Registration<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.4pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Data<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.4pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Directory<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.4pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Services</span> </div><p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin: 7.7pt 33.05pt 0.0001pt 36.25pt; 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font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-style: normal;">interests<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>are<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>overridden<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>by<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>the<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>interests<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.7pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>or<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>fundamental<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>rights<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>and<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>freedoms<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.7pt;"></span>of<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>the<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Registered<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Name</span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="letter-spacing: 1.25pt; font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-style: normal;">Holder<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.4pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>or<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.4pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>data<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.4pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>subject<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.4pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>pursuant<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.4pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>to<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.9pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Article<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.4pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>6(1)(f)<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.4pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>GDPR.</span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0.55pt 0cm 0.0001pt; text-align: justify; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: 10pt;"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-size: 13pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"> </span></p><div class="" style="margin: 0cm 21.65pt 0.0001pt 36.25pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-style: italic; text-indent: 0cm; line-height: 17.73333168029785px;"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-style: normal;">4.2.<span class="" style="font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: "Times New Roman";"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-style: normal;">Notwithstanding<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.15pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Section<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.15pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>4.1<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.15pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>of<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.15pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>this<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.5pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Appendix,<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.15pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Registrar<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.15pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>and<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.15pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Registry<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.15pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Operator<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.15pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>MUST<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.15pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>provide</span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="letter-spacing: 1.5pt; font-style: normal;"></span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-style: normal;">reasonable access to<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.05pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Personal Data<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.05pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>in Registration Data<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.05pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>to a<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.05pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>third party where<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.05pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>the<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.6pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Article 29 Working</span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="letter-spacing: 1.35pt; font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-style: normal;">Party/European<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.35pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Data<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Protection<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Board,<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>court<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>order<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>of<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>a<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>relevant<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>court<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.35pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>of<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>competent<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;"></span>jurisdiction<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>concerning</span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="letter-spacing: 1.3pt; font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-style: normal;">the<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>GDPR, applicable legislation or regulation has provided guidance that the provision of specified non-</span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="letter-spacing: 1.2pt; font-style: normal;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-style: normal;">public<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.05pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>elements<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>of<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Registration<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.05pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Data<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>to<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>a<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>specified<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.05pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>class<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>of<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>third<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.05pt;"></span>party<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>for<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>a<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>specified<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.05pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>purpose<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>is<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>lawful.</span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class="" style="margin: 0.15pt 0cm 0.0001pt 36.25pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-style: italic;"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-style: normal;">Registrar<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -1pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>and<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -1pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Registry<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.95pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Operator<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -1pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>MUST<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.95pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>provide<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -1pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>such<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.95pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>reasonable<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -1pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>access<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.95pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>within<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -1pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>90<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.95pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>days<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -1pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>of<span class="" style="letter-spacing: -0.95pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>the</span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin: 3.85pt 21.65pt 0.0001pt 36.25pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-style: italic; line-height: 17.73333168029785px;"><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-style: normal;">date<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>ICANN<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.7pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>publishes<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>any<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.7pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>such<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>guidance,<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.7pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>unless<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>legal<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.7pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>requirements<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>otherwise<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.7pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>demand<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>an<span class="" style="letter-spacing: 0.7pt;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>earlier</span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="letter-spacing: 1.3pt; font-style: normal;"></span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-style: normal;">implementation.</span><span lang="EN-US" class="" style="font-style: normal;"><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As I have said in this mail-list, ICANN is an organization running for the Global Internet Key infrastructure Resource; hence, the regulation made by ICANN should consider the opinion not only from EU, but from the Global Community. The expression from article 4.1/ 4.2 of appendix A here indicates that even if a court from China wants the details data from a registrar based in China, they may require the permission from Article 29 WG or follow the instruction from article 6(1)(f) of GDPR, which would be probably inappropriate.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If I have any misunderstanding towards this regulation, or you have any words towards this issue, please do not hesitate to contact me. I am looking forward the response, thanks!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best regards</div><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div class="" style="position: relative; zoom: 1;">--<br class=""><div class="">Zhou Heng</div><div class="">Ph.d Candidate</div><div class="">Renmin University of China</div><div class="" style="clear: both;"></div></div><br class="">在 2018-08-03 22:40:54，Amr Elsadr <<a href="mailto:aelsadr@ICANNPOLICY.NINJA" class="">aelsadr@ICANNPOLICY.NINJA</a>> 写道：<br class=""><blockquote id="isReplyContent" class="" style="padding-left: 1ex; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">Hi,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The first GNSO EPDP on Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data took place on Wednesday, 1 August 2018. The notes, action items and recordings for this call can be found on the meeting’s wiki page here: <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/ugBpBQ" class="">https://community.icann.org/x/ugBpBQ</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As per action item 5 (which I believe should be action item 6), the NCSG appointed members and alternates are considering our responses to the first part of a 4-part survey. The first part of the survey is due on Monday, 6 August 2018 at 19:00 UTC. This deadline is in a few days, as the responses provided by the different GNSO SGs/Cs, as well as the different ICANN SOs/ACs participating in the EPDP will be reviewed during the next EPDP Team call on Tuesday, 7 August 2018.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We’ve created a google doc to collaborate on the responses we submit. You can find this google doc here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GcE0Q_Fq8rXF8_Dt_bcNDdp5-1uKwcRRJjKmQbnkvoQ/edit?usp=sharing" class="">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GcE0Q_Fq8rXF8_Dt_bcNDdp5-1uKwcRRJjKmQbnkvoQ/edit?usp=sharing</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Permission rights for the google doc only allow NCSG-appointed members and alternates of the EPDP Team to comment and edit the document, but anyone with the link can view it. So if anyone within the broader NCSG membership has comments or input, please start a new thread to share and discuss those here on NCSG-DISCUSS.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For those who don’t have access to google services, staff have exported the survey questions to a MS Word document, which is attached to this email. You won’t be able to view any edits or comments made on the google doc, but this is the best we could right now (apologies for that).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you have any additional questions for your representatives on the EPDP Team, please don’t hesitate to ask.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Amr</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""></div><div class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class="" style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span class="" style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">_______________________________________________</span><br class="" style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span class="" style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">Ncuc-discuss mailing list</span><br class="" style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><a href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" class="" style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br class="" style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss" class="" style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a><br class="" style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>