<html><head></head><body>Hi Zhou Heng,<div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">I’m not subscribed to the NCUC-DISCUSS list, so I hope you don’t mind me switching the recipient of this email to NCSG-DISCUSS.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">If I understand your comment below correctly, I don’t agree with it. Let me explain why.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">The topic of this EPDP (Expedited Policy Development Process) has a very narrow scope as set by the <a href="https://community.icann.org/display/EOTSFGRD/EPDP+Team+Charter" class="">Charter</a> adopted by the GNSO Council, which is to review the <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registration-data-specs-en" class="">temporary specification on gTLD registration data</a> adopted by the ICANN Board. The EPDP Team is tasked to recommend whether this specification should be adopted via a GNSO process as-is, or whether changes should be recommended. The whole purpose of the temporary specification was to ensure that ICANN, through its contracts with contracted parties (gTLD Registry Operators and Registrars) does not require these parties to process and disclose gTLD domain name registration data in a manner that conflicts with the EU GDPR. So the narrow scope here does not cover other privacy/data protection regimes, and a narrowly scoped policy issue is required in order for the GNSO Council to initiate an Expedited PDP, as opposed to a traditional PDP.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">However, this does not mean that only EU-based actors need to be consulted. Note that there are several non-EU based members on the EPDP Team, as the GDPR affects not only contracted parties that are geographically based in the EU, but also any party that serves EU-based customers, as well as stakeholders around the world that have an interest in accessing this data.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Furthermore, the hypothetical scenario that you describe is not accurate. If a Chinese court requires a China-based registrar to disclose data on a registrant located in China, the GDPR is not to my knowledge at all applicable. That would mean that in this scenario, this temporary specification is also not applicable.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">I’m multitasking right now, so hope that my explanation is helpful and clear enough, and that I have not misrepresented the facts. I am happy to be corrected, if I am wrong. Perhaps others would like to weigh in.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Thanks.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Amr<br class=""/><div><br class=""/><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 5, 2018, at 2:47 PM, Zhou Heng <<a href="mailto:socata@ruc.edu.cn" class="">socata@ruc.edu.cn</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"/><div class=""><div style="font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; line-height: 1.7; font-family: Arial;" class=""><div class="">Dear Community and EPDP WG members,</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">I would like to make one comment towards the Temporary Specification:</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">26.<span style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Please<span style="letter-spacing: 0.45pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>consider<span style="letter-spacing: -0.35pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Appendix<span style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>A:<span style="letter-spacing: 0.45pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Registration<span style="letter-spacing: 0.4pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Data<span style="letter-spacing: 0.4pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Directory<span style="letter-spacing: 0.4pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Services</span> </div><p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin: 7.7pt 33.05pt 0.0001pt 36.25pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-style: italic; text-indent: 0cm; line-height: 17.73333168029785px;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-style: normal;" class="">4.1.<span style="font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: "Times New Roman";" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-style: normal;" class="">Registrar<span style="letter-spacing: 0.2pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>and<span style="letter-spacing: 0.25pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Registry<span style="letter-spacing: 0.2pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Operator<span style="letter-spacing: 0.25pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>MUST<span style="letter-spacing: 0.2pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>provide<span style="letter-spacing: 0.25pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>reasonable<span style="letter-spacing: 0.2pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>access<span style="letter-spacing: 0.25pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>to<span style="letter-spacing: 0.2pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Personal<span style="letter-spacing: 0.25pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Data<span style="letter-spacing: 0.25pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>in<span style="letter-spacing: 0.2pt;" class=""></span>Registration</span><span lang="EN-US" style="letter-spacing: 1.45pt; font-style: normal;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-style: normal;" class="">Data<span style="letter-spacing: 0.25pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>to<span style="letter-spacing: 0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>third<span style="letter-spacing: 0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>parties<span style="letter-spacing: 0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>on<span style="letter-spacing: 0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>the<span style="letter-spacing: 0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>basis<span style="letter-spacing: 0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>of<span style="letter-spacing: 0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>a<span style="letter-spacing: 0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>legitimate<span style="letter-spacing: 0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>interests<span style="letter-spacing: 0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>pursued<span style="letter-spacing: 0.25pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>by<span style="letter-spacing: 0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>the<span style="letter-spacing: 0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>third<span style="letter-spacing: 0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.1pt;" class="">pa</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" class="">rt</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.1pt;" class="">y,</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.3pt;" class=""></span>except<span style="letter-spacing: 0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>where<span style="letter-spacing: 0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>such</span><span lang="EN-US" style="letter-spacing: 1.15pt; font-style: normal;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-style: normal;" class="">interests<span style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>are<span style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>overridden<span style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>by<span style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>the<span style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>interests<span style="letter-spacing: 0.7pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>or<span style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>fundamental<span style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>rights<span style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>and<span style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>freedoms<span style="letter-spacing: 0.7pt;" class=""></span>of<span style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>the<span style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Registered<span style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Name</span><span lang="EN-US" style="letter-spacing: 1.25pt; font-style: normal;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-style: normal;" class="">Holder<span style="letter-spacing: -0.4pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>or<span style="letter-spacing: -0.4pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>data<span style="letter-spacing: -0.4pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>subject<span style="letter-spacing: -0.4pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>pursuant<span style="letter-spacing: -0.4pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>to<span style="letter-spacing: -0.9pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Article<span style="letter-spacing: -0.4pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>6(1)(f)<span style="letter-spacing: -0.4pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>GDPR.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-style: normal;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0.55pt 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 13pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""> </span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 21.65pt 0.0001pt 36.25pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-style: italic; text-indent: 0cm; line-height: 17.73333168029785px;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-style: normal;" class="">4.2.<span style="font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: "Times New Roman";" class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-style: normal;" class="">Notwithstanding<span style="letter-spacing: 0.15pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Section<span style="letter-spacing: 0.15pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>4.1<span style="letter-spacing: 0.15pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>of<span style="letter-spacing: 0.15pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>this<span style="letter-spacing: -0.5pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Appendix,<span style="letter-spacing: 0.15pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Registrar<span style="letter-spacing: 0.15pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>and<span style="letter-spacing: 0.15pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Registry<span style="letter-spacing: 0.15pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Operator<span style="letter-spacing: 0.15pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>MUST<span style="letter-spacing: 0.15pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>provide</span><span lang="EN-US" style="letter-spacing: 1.5pt; font-style: normal;" class=""></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-style: normal;" class="">reasonable access to<span style="letter-spacing: 0.05pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Personal Data<span style="letter-spacing: 0.05pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>in Registration Data<span style="letter-spacing: 0.05pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>to a<span style="letter-spacing: 0.05pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>third party where<span style="letter-spacing: 0.05pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>the<span style="letter-spacing: -0.6pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Article 29 Working</span><span lang="EN-US" style="letter-spacing: 1.35pt; font-style: normal;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-style: normal;" class="">Party/European<span style="letter-spacing: -0.35pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Data<span style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Protection<span style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Board,<span style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>court<span style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>order<span style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>of<span style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>a<span style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>relevant<span style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>court<span style="letter-spacing: -0.35pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>of<span style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>competent<span style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;" class=""></span>jurisdiction<span style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>concerning</span><span lang="EN-US" style="letter-spacing: 1.3pt; font-style: normal;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-style: normal;" class="">the<span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>GDPR, applicable legislation or regulation has provided guidance that the provision of specified non-</span><span lang="EN-US" style="letter-spacing: 1.2pt; font-style: normal;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-style: normal;" class="">public<span style="letter-spacing: 0.05pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>elements<span style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>of<span style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Registration<span style="letter-spacing: 0.05pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Data<span style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>to<span style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>a<span style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>specified<span style="letter-spacing: 0.05pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>class<span style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>of<span style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>third<span style="letter-spacing: 0.05pt;" class=""></span>party<span style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>for<span style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>a<span style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>specified<span style="letter-spacing: 0.05pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>purpose<span style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>is<span style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>lawful.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-style: normal;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0.15pt 0cm 0.0001pt 36.25pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-style: italic;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-style: normal;" class="">Registrar<span style="letter-spacing: -1pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>and<span style="letter-spacing: -1pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Registry<span style="letter-spacing: -0.95pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Operator<span style="letter-spacing: -1pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>MUST<span style="letter-spacing: -0.95pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>provide<span style="letter-spacing: -1pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>such<span style="letter-spacing: -0.95pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>reasonable<span style="letter-spacing: -1pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>access<span style="letter-spacing: -0.95pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>within<span style="letter-spacing: -1pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>90<span style="letter-spacing: -0.95pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>days<span style="letter-spacing: -1pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>of<span style="letter-spacing: -0.95pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>the</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-style: normal;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin: 3.85pt 21.65pt 0.0001pt 36.25pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-style: italic; line-height: 17.73333168029785px;"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-style: normal;" class="">date<span style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>ICANN<span style="letter-spacing: 0.7pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>publishes<span style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>any<span style="letter-spacing: 0.7pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>such<span style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>guidance,<span style="letter-spacing: 0.7pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>unless<span style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>legal<span style="letter-spacing: 0.7pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>requirements<span style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>otherwise<span style="letter-spacing: 0.7pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>demand<span style="letter-spacing: 0.65pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>an<span style="letter-spacing: 0.7pt;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>earlier</span><span lang="EN-US" style="letter-spacing: 1.3pt; font-style: normal;" class=""></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-style: normal;" class="">implementation.</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-style: normal;" class=""><o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">As I have said in this mail-list, ICANN is an organization running for the Global Internet Key infrastructure Resource; hence, the regulation made by ICANN should consider the opinion not only from EU, but from the Global Community. The expression from article 4.1/ 4.2 of appendix A here indicates that even if a court from China wants the details data from a registrar based in China, they may require the permission from Article 29 WG or follow the instruction from article 6(1)(f) of GDPR, which would be probably inappropriate.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">If I have any misunderstanding towards this regulation, or you have any words towards this issue, please do not hesitate to contact me. I am looking forward the response, thanks!</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Best regards</div><br class=""/><br class=""/><br class=""/><div style="position: relative; zoom: 1;" class="">--<br class=""/><div class="">Zhou Heng</div><div class="">Ph.d Candidate</div><div class="">Renmin University of China</div><div style="clear: both;" class=""></div></div><br class=""/>在 2018-08-03 22:40:54，Amr Elsadr <<a href="mailto:aelsadr@ICANNPOLICY.NINJA" class="">aelsadr@ICANNPOLICY.NINJA</a>> 写道：<br class=""/><blockquote id="isReplyContent" style="padding-left: 1ex; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);" class="">Hi,<div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">The first GNSO EPDP on Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data took place on Wednesday, 1 August 2018. The notes, action items and recordings for this call can be found on the meeting’s wiki page here: <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/ugBpBQ" class="">https://community.icann.org/x/ugBpBQ</a></div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">As per action item 5 (which I believe should be action item 6), the NCSG appointed members and alternates are considering our responses to the first part of a 4-part survey. The first part of the survey is due on Monday, 6 August 2018 at 19:00 UTC. This deadline is in a few days, as the responses provided by the different GNSO SGs/Cs, as well as the different ICANN SOs/ACs participating in the EPDP will be reviewed during the next EPDP Team call on Tuesday, 7 August 2018.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">We’ve created a google doc to collaborate on the responses we submit. You can find this google doc here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GcE0Q_Fq8rXF8_Dt_bcNDdp5-1uKwcRRJjKmQbnkvoQ/edit?usp=sharing" class="">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GcE0Q_Fq8rXF8_Dt_bcNDdp5-1uKwcRRJjKmQbnkvoQ/edit?usp=sharing</a></div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Permission rights for the google doc only allow NCSG-appointed members and alternates of the EPDP Team to comment and edit the document, but anyone with the link can view it. So if anyone within the broader NCSG membership has comments or input, please start a new thread to share and discuss those here on NCSG-DISCUSS.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">For those who don’t have access to google services, staff have exported the survey questions to a MS Word document, which is attached to this email. You won’t be able to view any edits or comments made on the google doc, but this is the best we could right now (apologies for that).</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">If you have any additional questions for your representatives on the EPDP Team, please don’t hesitate to ask.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Thanks.</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class="">Amr</div><div class=""><br class=""/></div><div class=""></div><div class=""></div></blockquote></div><br style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""/><span style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""/><span style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Ncuc-discuss mailing list</span><br style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""/><a href="mailto:Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org" style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""/><a href="https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss" style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a><br style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""/></div></blockquote></div><br class=""/></div></body></html>